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Hi everyone!

We are about to order our Pro S AWD and are looking for a dealer.

We visited with a rep from Armstrong VW in PDX at the Portland Auto Show on Thursday and he indicated they don’t add anything above MSRP and they (somehow) cover the initial $100 and 2nd $400 of the ordering process. That sounded really good to us, almost too good…

Anyone have experience with Armstrong?

Anyone have great a experience with another dealer in the area? We’re more than willing to travel - quite a bit even - to save $$.

Dealer markup is something we want to avoid even if it means traveling a ways. The $500 Armstrong offered is even better!

If you have a money saving tip please share!

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they (somehow) cover the initial $100 and 2nd $400 of the ordering process. That sounded really good to us, almost too good…
I can't say anything about that particular dealer, but are you saying that the dealer is offering to front you the $500 for the deposit?

When you're paying for the car, the $500 deposit will be deducted from the price. And anyway it's fully refundable right up to when you make your decision about whether or not to buy. But still, if they're gifting you the $500, and you can get an email or some other written record that they'll only charge MSRP plus destination fee, doc fee, and TTL, then go for it. That's no risk to you at all.
 

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Bought mine from Armstrong, IMO the best car buying experience I have had.
I would see if Greg Warren is still there. No relation.
I pleaded to not go thru the 'finance guy', but still had to anyway.
He knew up front I was going to say NO to all he offered, but was nice about it.
I would go back. This was in Sept. 2021, before it all got extra crazy.
They also gave be the best trade in for my ahem early 2019 Bolt LT.
 

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I had an excellent buying experience at Carter VW in Seattle. I payed less than MSRP (but I had a trade, so they can more easily work the books). Part of the reason was the sales tax discount here (cars above $45k don’t qualify). They weren’t pushy, the process was easy, and I didn’t pre-order. I walked in and bought a 1st Edition off the lot in May even though they were “sold out.”
 

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What ever you do, don't pick Dick Hannah. They charge $5000 to $8000 over MSRP and were rude about it.

I've read more than 5, less than 10 separate posts about Beaverton Herzog-Meier charging only MSRP. I've emailed them twice from separate accounts and gotten the same answer: "No markup over MSRP. No forced dealer add-ons".
I'll be buying from them in March or April

Edit: A little late edit from August. No markup, no forced add-ons, only asked me twice about adding an extended warranty. Took 2 hours total until I drove away, and used dealer financing with a local credit union.
 

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I'm getting my car from Herzog-Meier as well. My husband has worked with them before when he got a CPO Jetta. We reserved back in September before I even knew some dealers marked up above MSRP, so when I found this forum last month I was very relieved to hear Herzog-Meier was among the dealerships that did NOT mark up! We made a great choice right out of the gate! Hoping to get our car sometime in late March.
 

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Last July, I traveled by train to Salem from Tacoma to purchase my ID.4 Pro S RWD from McMinville Volkswagen. Anthony, the salesman, drove from the dealership to Salem to give me a ride. My purchase was financed through my credit union so I carried a bank check for the cash purchase. The car came with a few extras like mats and roadside kit and first aid kit that increased the price slightly over MSRP. The purchase experience was great! They did ask me once if I wanted to add anything and I declined. I was on my way home within an hour.
 

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Last July, I traveled by train to Salem from Tacoma to purchase my ID.4 Pro S RWD from McMinville Volkswagen. Anthony, the salesman, drove from the dealership to Salem to give me a ride. My purchase was financed through my credit union so I carried a bank check for the cash purchase. The car came with a few extras like mats and roadside kit and first aid kit that increased the price slightly over MSRP. The purchase experience was great! They did ask me once if I wanted to add anything and I declined. I was on my way home within an hour.
good to hear. I am getting mine there once it is delivered.
 

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Wanted to let everyone know that I ordered with/from Armstrong VW today.

They did pay the initial $100 and promised to pay the next $400 too. Also when delivered will just charge the MSRP. So, I’m pretty happy at this point!
 

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On this topic, has anyone found a good dealer in the Seattle area more recently that doesn't do addons as a way to force the buyer to accept markup on a reservation? I've seen reports of that happening. I've had good luck with Carter Subaru in the past, so I wouldn't have any issue going with them if you can turn that stuff down.
 

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On this topic, has anyone found a good dealer in the Seattle area more recently that doesn't do addons as a way to force the buyer to accept markup on a reservation? I've seen reports of that happening. I've had good luck with Carter Subaru in the past, so I wouldn't have any issue going with them if you can turn that stuff down.
Give Carter a call and ask. The only area dealership I've heard of adding things is Kirkland. Over the years, I've had great experiences with sales and service at Campbell (Edmonds).
 

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Give Carter a call and ask. The only area dealership I've heard of adding things is Kirkland. Over the years, I've had great experiences with sales and service at Campbell (Edmonds).
I have reservations bound for Campbell in Edmonds and I have been assured both verbally and via email that they do not mark up above MSRP except for a $150 doc fee.

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Give Carter a call and ask. The only area dealership I've heard of adding things is Kirkland. Over the years, I've had great experiences with sales and service at Campbell (Edmonds).
Kirkland is the dealer I'm moving away from. Thanks for the input on Campbell.
 
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I have a reservation at both Campbell and Kirkland. I have email from Kirkland saying the don't markup and no add-ons. I guess we'll find out....
Good to hear about Kirkland. Their sales staff is not on commission so they can show a little unmotivated. I initially had my ID.4 reservation directed there, but was ghosted by their EV specialist (who is no longer there). I later inquired about a car for my daughter. When I visited the lot to view it, the sales guy basically just pointed in the general direction. The service team has been very good.

I've done 3 deals in 10 years with Alan Kemper at Campbell, who took care of my my ID.4. Their service team is excellent.
 

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My neighbor got his at Kirkland and said they did hard sell add-ons, but he just kept saying no. He said it was annoying, but typical based on his experience. I've heard good things about Campbell but it's a bit further away for me.
 

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My neighbor got his at Kirkland and said they did hard sell add-ons, but he just kept saying no. He said it was annoying, but typical based on his experience.
Yeah, I watched my partner pick out a used Yaris from Toyota of Kirkland, and that's soured me a lot on these folks. I'm used to working with dealers that can at least take a simple no and move on, rather than pulling the fun trick of putting the addons on the contract and basically making customers feel like they are causing problems when they ask to remove it.

I wish folks luck and hope it's not as bad as I may have just painted it, I just don't want to wind up waiting for months just to wade through the nonsense if I don't have to, when it's simple to switch before it locks.
 
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I have great experience with Kelly at VW of Bellingham. We agree in advance, no extras and I pay MSRP. She knows her cars and understands the nuances of leasing. She and I chat at least monthly, and thanks to all of you, I can give her info on the ID.4 that she's not hearing from VW!! My wife loves her too.
 

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On this topic, has anyone found a good dealer in the Seattle area more recently that doesn't do addons as a way to force the buyer to accept markup on a reservation? I've seen reports of that happening. I've had good luck with Carter Subaru in the past, so I wouldn't have any issue going with them if you can turn that stuff down.
We had a very good buying experience at University Volkswagen. Very straightforward and no surprises.
 

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My neighbor got his at Kirkland and said they did hard sell add-ons, but he just kept saying no. He said it was annoying, but typical based on his experience. I've heard good things about Campbell but it's a bit further away for me.
Kirkland is the only one I've heard in the Seattle area that does do add-ons.

We actually live in Kirkland, but we're buying our ID.4 from Campbell in Edmonds. It's not that far and it's a pleasant drive.

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