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„Amazing” speed in Chicagoland

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So … anyone in Chicagoland have problems getting charging speed for ID4 over 60kW. Charged today at Orland Park location, 42F , started at 39-%, drove here with destination typed into vw navigation in case that would prep battery and the result? 29kW , I’m the one and only car charging here!!! What is going on? Shouldn’t they be sued for false advertising 150kW? Did anyone had even close to that ever? My highest was 90 in Hodgkins, IL and only once during my initial first charge after leaving the dealership 😂. Going on a trip to Peoria tomorrow but guess what… not risking taking my ID4 awd cause trip is 140 miles each way and the one and only charger is in Bloomington 40 miles on my way back home. After trying to charge at 2 stations today and all taken or broken I will not risk to be stuck there for hours and just take my Atlas 🙄
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So … anyone in Chicagoland have problems getting charging speed for ID4 over 60kW. Charged today at Orland Park location, 42F , started at 39-%, drove here with destination typed into vw navigation in case that would prep battery and the result? 29kW , I’m the one and only car charging here!!! What is going on? Shouldn’t they be sued for false advertising 150kW? Did anyone had even close to that ever? My highest was 90 in Hodgkins, IL and only once during my initial first charge after leaving the dealership 😂. Going on a trip to Peoria tomorrow but guess what… not risking taking my ID4 awd cause trip is 140 miles each way and the one and only charger is in Bloomington 40 miles on my way back home. After trying to charge at 2 stations today and all taken or broken I will not risk to be stuck there for hours and just take my Atlas 🙄
Today traveled especially to 350kW station in Joliet,il to test if I am able to get a higher speed. Starting at 34% … 57kW that is all EA could give me on 350kW charger. Another car next to me , e-tron, same speed. Everyone was disappointed… I’m not a conspiracy theory person but I am suspecting EA has a cap for all free users under “3year 30-minute free charging plan” otherwise how you can explain that ? After e-tron left I got a jump to 63kW ….WOW!!!! Amazing speed on 350 kW charger and the only car in service now is mine that should be able to get 170kW charging speed… why even advertise those stations as 150 or 350kW if they can’t feed even one car close to that speed? Someone really needs to investigate that. False advertising should be punished like Keurig that had to pay for false info about their eco kcups ;)
I've been getting about the same peak rate (63 kw, but takes 5-10 mins to get up to that) in cold temps (< 40 F) on 2023 ID.4 (SK battery) at two different EA chargers and a Volta. If it's anywhere near freezing or below (like 12F today!) you are going to get slower charging speeds. The question is how much slower? This is not spelled out on the VW website at all but mentioned in the footnotes:

"Based on charging at a 170kW or higher charger. Charging times will vary and depend on a variety of factors, including ambient temperature, charger type, battery condition and initial state of charge, vehicle condition and others. Frequent and consecutive fast charging can permanently decrease battery capacity. Vehicles equipped with cells and modules supplied by SK On charge in about 30 min. Vehicles equipped with cells and modules supplied by LG charge in about 36 min. See Monroney Label (window sticker) for cell and module manufacturer. "

However, it's hard to find any real numbers about what to expect. Here's a few references to suggest it should go higher than 60-65 kW:
  1. How Fast Does The Volkswagen ID.4 Charge? Our DC Fast Charge Test Finds Out (insideevs.com) (claims went to 120 kW in low 40s F)
  2. Review: VW ID.4 gives drivers what they need - heat pump, power, range in winter - without paying extra - The Globe and Mail - this reviewer only recorded a < 20% rate drop in winter
Here are the Electrify America Terms and Conditions: 2023 VWID4 Charging Plan Disclosure | Electrify America. These specifically say "Subject to the waiting period and other restrictions described below, there is no limit on the number of eligible charging sessions or the kWh amount of charging available in each session during the Plan.'

So, what I'm going to do is call EA next time during a slow charge session and ask them why it's not charging at a higher rate. I would directly ask them if EA limits the speed (and record it) and see what they say.

Hope we'll get some answers soon.
I called. They just said we are sorry 😂
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I called. They just said we are sorry 😂
And the point is if you are paying for 350 kW capable charger you would like the company to fulfill their ad. How everyone would feel if went to a restaurant and paid for a dinner but than at the table received only a glass of water and mashed potatoes instead of steak and other goods written in the menu.. if EA can’t deliver what they advertise than remove those stickers or write “speed can’t be predicted “ or “you get what you get and be happy with it”
At least that would be true!
technically, EA is fulfilling their promise for UP TO 350kW.
22 kW satisfies that legal statement.

It’s agonizing but I don’t see anything changing soon. EA will probably have to go into bankruptcy first before good management takes over and fixes things.
Or maybe thats VW? First lied about diesel engines and now about EVs 😜. Doesn’t matter who is it but it’s a big lie if only CA owners can get that close to advertised charging speed … talked to a lot of Chicagoland id4 owners and not even one was happy with the charging speed.
According to Kyle, yo-yo the car to preheat the battery. Yo-yo = floor go pedal, then full regen, and repeat.
And after 10k replace brakes 🤪😂
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