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An overall positive piece, but it was a bit irritating that he kept referring to his own 70 mph range result of 234 miles as the thing he likes to use rather than the EPA range of 250. The problem is that the 250 mi the EPA Combined Driving range--the EPA Highway driving range for the Pro S is 230.2 miles. It's a nitpicking point, but he's painting the ID.4 on the under-deliver side of things when it's really on the over-deliver side.

But even with his pro Tesla bias, it was an overall positive piece.
 

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An overall positive piece, but it was a bit irritating that he kept referring to his own 70 mph range result of 234 miles as the thing he likes to use rather than the EPA range of 250. The problem is that the 250 mi the EPA Combined Driving range--the EPA Highway driving range for the Pro S is 230.2 miles. It's a nitpicking point, but he's painting the ID.4 on the under-deliver side of things when it's really on the over-deliver side.

But even with his pro Tesla bias, it was an overall positive piece.
I think his referring to the 70mph range test is fair as most DCFC will occur on road trips when driving primarily on the interstate. It's not at all Tesla bias.
 

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I actually did the exact same test (not on purpose!) and came back with nearly identical results. Shows how consistent DCFC on the ID.4 is.
 

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But even with his pro Tesla bias, it was an overall positive piece.
Tom doesn't have a Tesla bias. He has a long history with EV's. He is currently in Germany driving BMW EV's such as the i4 and iX4 he is the only independent journalist invited by BMW due to his history with their EV's. Tom was a LEAF owner back in 2011. His perspective is pretty reliable.

His own range test is a highway specific test and he does the same test for all vehicles he tests. The EPA test has two test cycles, Tesla is one of the few manufacturers to use the extended test cycle which is favorable to them. In addition manufacturers are allowed to sandbag numbers, think Porsche. This is why Tom and others have developed their own tests to try and compare vehicles equally.
 
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