Not as hard as you might think.
If you have to change it, you will have plenty of time to take it apart. My friend had to have his changed and it took the dealer 2 weeks to get it.Not hard, but sure is a lot of disassembly!
The ID4 owner's manual states that replacing the 12 volt battery is not a simple remove and replace operation --- "vehicle electrical system must be adapted as part of the replacement. Only qualified professionals have the necessary equipment to perform the adaptation correctly." Don't know how much of that is smoke (or whether the special technical issues are fairly simple or not.) But, being a new model, there is not a lot of 3rd party info floating around yet.If you have to change it, you will have plenty of time to take it apart. My friend had to have his changed and it took the dealer 2 weeks to get it.
I had no idea and never heard of such a thing for a car battery. Just shows what little I know about VWs,Audi's, etc. I wonder what dealers charge for this programming step or it's just included with the marked up dealer battery. I also wonder how easy it is to purchase a battery with a BEM sticker and whether these compatible batteries sell for a premium. Maybe this is another good reason to justify purchase of a Ross-Tech VCDS Hex (given instructions). Any good advice @Andy at Ross-Tech.com?The ID4 owner's manual states that replacing the 12 volt battery is not a simple remove and replace operation --- "vehicle electrical system must be adapted as part of the replacement. Only qualified professionals have the necessary equipment to perform the adaptation correctly." Don't know how much of that is smoke (or whether the special technical issues are fairly simple or not.) But, being a new model, there is not a lot of 3rd party info floating around yet.
@MaineID's experience here with his ID.4 confirms the same result. I had remembered reading about it, but didn't understand at the time the implication on battery replacement. @Andy at Ross-Tech.com Thanks for the detail.In many recent gassers (and diesels) there’s both the 12V battery as well as a Battery Manager (usually either in address 61 or as a subsystem in address 19). In the ID.4 it’s the latter. When you replace a battery you are supposed to tell the car (through Coding or Adaptation, whichever is applicable); the brand, part number, and serial number of the new battery. This causes the battery manager to reset its calculations to recognize a fresh battery has been installed. In practice if you install an aftermarket battery with the same specs, it’s sufficient to enter the old battery’s info but increment the serial number by one digit. I haven’t looked into what would be involved for an ID.4 12V battery replacement yet. I will caution that even so far back as my bosses wife’s 2005 A6, replacing the battery without doing the coding/adaptation steps resulted in the system eventually shutting down, preventing the car from starting.
That is just crazy. The battery "system" should be redesigned to make the replacement as easy as it is in a gas powered VW such as my Jetta.
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My own perspective is that they all need more training than simply OJT.... or issue by issue. Yes, dealers will still need repair folks, but the corner garages may become rarer and rarer as the tech / cost of the tools needed and links to the mfg rise.
@fiehlsport Thank you for the video! I should have mentioned that sooner, but got caught up in the learnings of battery system programming. This is sure to help many, especially since some of the disassembly steps were not obvious. I originally wondered why the battery was placed in such a trapped position, but since the car needs to be reprogrammed anyway and most will likely bring to the dealer it makes sense that a quick change design wasn't necessarily a high priority with VW Engineering.Good points on having to "code" the battery. If anything, I hope this can help someone in the future replace the battery at a cheaper cost than the dealer. Then, bring it to the dealer to pay only for the coding/software service. In the past, this seemed to be a common way of doing it on BMWs.
As far as the car being driveable after disconnecting the 12V - you just need to drive it around the block, then power cycle it and all of the errors disappear.
Maybe this is another good reason to justify purchase of a Ross-Tech VCDS Hex (given instructions).
I just looked up control module 19 (CAN Gateway) and now realize it's one of the ECUs protected by SFD. I guess it's likely we will only have the dealer (or other professional service) reprogramming option for battery replacement. Oh well. I still hope something changes there in the future to allow DIYs to modify.In many recent gassers (and diesels) there’s both the 12V battery as well as a Battery Manager (usually either in address 61 or as a subsystem in address 19). In the ID.4 it’s the latter.
I'm sure Ross Tech will come with update on coding battery after replacement.I just looked up control module 19 (CAN Gateway) and now realize it's one of the ECUs protected by SFD. I guess it's likely we will only have the dealer (or other professional service) reprogramming option for battery replacement. Oh well. I still hope something changes there in the future to allow DIYs to modify.
Have you done one in the M3 or MY? It's worse.Not hard, but sure is a lot of disassembly!