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How serious and widespread is this issue? Would those that are coming off the line recently be impacted? I am hoping to grab one of the cancellations between now and the end of the year, but might need to reconsider if it's a potentially serious issue. TIA.

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I think it got fixed on the line a bit ago. My October build picked up yesterday is not on the list.
 

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Propulsion units are not not assembled at the factory line where vehicles are assembled. As VW pointed out they know exact number of vehicles affected. Even if this happens under warranty some time after purchase you will get new Propulsion unit ( transmission and motor as complete unit)
Is this an AWD issue or is this issue just affecting AWD ID4 because that's all that's been made so far? Basically is this something that will impact RWD buyers?
 

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Propulsion units are not not assembled at the factory line where vehicles are assembled. As VW pointed out they know exact number of vehicles affected. Even if this happens under warranty some time after purchase you will get new Propulsion unit ( transmission and motor as complete unit)
While it's nice to know that VW would take care of any potential issues related to this recall, I imagine it would be quite a hassle to deal with, especially if replacement of a propulsion unit is needed.

I think it got fixed on the line a bit ago. My October build picked up yesterday is not on the list.
Thanks. That's good to know. Now I just need to find one that has been cancelled.

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How serious and widespread is this issue? Would those that are coming off the line recently be impacted? I am hoping to grab one of the cancellations between now and the end of the year, but might need to reconsider if it's a potentially serious issue. TIA.

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My 2023 (numbered 19XX) is not affected by the recall. I just checked. So, it is definitely not all of them. Whether it affects fewer than 1900, or it only affects cars produced between late September (after mine) and November, I don't know.
 

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Affected number announcemed is not really that all have suffered this seals issue. But it is choosen batch of units that have been decided to be replaced. This is done by robotics arm no human involved in this process.....and after checking camera recordings it was decided to get all batch of propulsion units replaced. Gray silicone is used for sealing smooth surfaces on propulsion unit.
 

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Yes. But you might have to pull over and put up the hood at some point.
Checking coolant fluids should be whenever you are charging or going on long trip. Walking around the vehicle looking at tires, at least 2 times a month check pressure in the states where big swing temperatures are happening. Looking before taking for drive front grills for obstruction. Looking every once in while parking spot for any unusual fluids like coolant or oil on the ground. At least once a month look for tire thread wear.... any chipping on glass surfaces or paint. And one another important bottle to inspect is brake oil level. 12V battery terminals for any loose connection or unusual changes in terminal corrosion. Every couple months check front discs for unusual wear. If you changing tires for winter by yourself check all suspension, bushings and shocks for signs of oil. If not familiar how to check this out ask one of suspension specialists to show you what and how to check this. I may forget some other things but this would do great for beginners how to maintain vehicle and catch things before they become major repairs.
 

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Checking coolant fluids should be whenever you are charging or going on long trip. Walking around the vehicle looking at tires, at least 2 times a month check pressure in the states where big swing temperatures are happening. Looking before taking for drive front grills for obstruction. Looking every once in while parking spot for any unusual fluids like coolant or oil on the ground. At least once a month look for tire thread wear.... any chipping on glass surfaces or paint. And one another important bottle to inspect is brake oil level. 12V battery terminals for any loose connection or unusual changes in terminal corrosion. Every couple months check front discs for unusual wear. If you changing tires for winter by yourself check all suspension, bushings and shocks for signs of oil. If not familiar how to check this out ask one of suspension specialists to show you what and how to check this. I may forget some other things but this would do great for beginners how to maintain vehicle and catch things before they become major repairs.
It's a good habit to get into that when you fill the windshield washer fluid reservoir, check all the other visible fluid levels under the hood/bonnet. The rest of your recommended tasks might also be done at that time.
 

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VW of America had zero information on the recall, and said to call dealer. Both dealers I spoke with had even less information to offer. Not surprised given my terrible experiences with VW of America in years past. Customer service seems to be a fairly foreign concept to them.
 

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What is the range of VINs possibly subject to this recall?

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What is the range of VINs possibly subject to this recall?
That is the trouble with multiple threads on this same topic, here is the link to the better thread about it:
Looks like affected vehicles are in VIN range 287-2527 but only 392 vehicles within that range actually have the issue.
 

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That is the trouble with multiple threads on this same topic, here is the link to the better thread about it:
Yes, I knew about that thread, but I searched for it and couldn't find it. That is the info I was looking for.

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Checking coolant fluids should be whenever you are charging or going on long trip. Walking around the vehicle looking at tires, at least 2 times a month check pressure in the states where big swing temperatures are happening. Looking before taking for drive front grills for obstruction. Looking every once in while parking spot for any unusual fluids like coolant or oil on the ground. At least once a month look for tire thread wear.... any chipping on glass surfaces or paint. And one another important bottle to inspect is brake oil level. 12V battery terminals for any loose connection or unusual changes in terminal corrosion. Every couple months check front discs for unusual wear. If you changing tires for winter by yourself check all suspension, bushings and shocks for signs of oil. If not familiar how to check this out ask one of suspension specialists to show you what and how to check this. I may forget some other things but this would do great for beginners how to maintain vehicle and catch things before they become major repairs.
So, my 2023 ID.4 , VIN 16xx is NOT on the list so far. But I found oil on my garage floor. Inspected and found the front skid plates smeared in oil. Cleaned and gave it 24 hrs to see if I can see oil again…. It was there again.

Called my dealer service department for an appointment. The service advisor fought me saying that there is no engine - so no oil in ID4. I had to fight them to get a tech to take a look. Tech called yesterday confirming that there is definitely some sort of leak. The ID.4 specialist tech comes back on Monday and will investigate further.

Hope it is something simple and easily fixed.

Still on temp plates and just 200 miles on the odometer. I am a first time VW customer ……
 

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So, my 2023 ID.4 , VIN 16xx is NOT on the list so far. But I found oil on my garage floor. Inspected and found the front skid plates smeared in oil. Cleaned and gave it 24 hrs to see if I can see oil again…. It was there again.

Called my dealer service department for an appointment. The service advisor fought me saying that there is no engine - so no oil in ID4. I had to fight them to get a tech to take a look. Tech called yesterday confirming that there is definitely some sort of leak. The ID.4 specialist tech comes back on Monday and will investigate further.

Hope it is something simple and easily fixed.

Still on temp plates and just 200 miles on the odometer. I am a first time VW customer ……
There is oil for transmission...and if you see oil dripping out it will need entire propulsion unit replacement. Depending on where oil is leaking. But it will most likely be removed for replacement, because we will need this propulsion unit to see what is the cause of this problem.
You can tell you service advisor that he needs time spent on learning how propulsion unit on ID4 is designed and how it is actually working.
If you can remove bottom shield and take pictures of propulsion unit and where is leaking. That would be nice.
 

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So, my 2023 ID.4 , VIN 16xx is NOT on the list so far. But I found oil on my garage floor. Inspected and found the front skid plates smeared in oil. Cleaned and gave it 24 hrs to see if I can see oil again…. It was there again.

Called my dealer service department for an appointment. The service advisor fought me saying that there is no engine - so no oil in ID4. I had to fight them to get a tech to take a look. Tech called yesterday confirming that there is definitely some sort of leak. The ID.4 specialist tech comes back on Monday and will investigate further.

Hope it is something simple and easily fixed.

Still on temp plates and just 200 miles on the odometer. I am a first time VW customer ……
It sounds like that service advisor is new or inexperienced. Engine isn't the only thing in a vehicle (EV or not) that has "oil." Maybe it's not oil, per se, but if something is leaking, it needs to be checked out.
I am hoping my local VW's service department is better than.

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