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2023 Volkswagen ID4 AWD First Drive: Are We Happy, Now?

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VW has made exclusive changes to the U.S. market 2023 ID4 EV SUV, which is now assembled in Tennessee.

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Oct 12, 2022

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The 2023 Volkswagen ID4 all-electric SUV is now assembled in Chattanooga, Tenn., just in time for the federal government's landmark
Inflation Reduction Act that requires localized material sourcing and production for EVs to qualify for new incentives.

The U.S. ID4 didn't just change its address, it also comes with a slew of feature and capability updates that the European and Chinese
markets won't get. It now comes with more powertrain options, new colors, an updated interior, light-up VW logos, as well as an all-new
entry-level model at a lower price point.

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What's New With The U.S.-Built ID4?
The major update to the ID4 lineup for the U.S. in 2023 is the newly-introduced, smaller 62 kWh (58 kWh usable) battery pack size, which is available on the RWD Standard and RWD S models. The single rear motor powertrain setup maintains 201 horsepower and 229 lb-ft of torque,
the compromise comes with range, which falls to 209 miles—a drop of around 40 miles, depending on trim, compared to the 82-kWh battery offering. The new model lowers the entry point for the ID4 model range, which now starts at $38,790 before incentives.

The ID4 Standard features minimal badging, a metal panel roof instead of glass, it lacks an illuminated front light bar and LED projector
headlights, and it swaps the otherwise standard 20-inch wheels for 19s. The biggest cosmetic change beyond the paint and wheels in
the ID4 updates is the new rear VW badge, which lights up red now on all but the base models.

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Change Is Good
Considering the upgrades to the 2023 ID4 are mostly either cosmetic or have minimal impact on performance, our driving impressions aren't
much different from the previous ID4s we've tested. That's to say, the ID4 offers a very comfortable and smooth ride, with adequate acceleration and tight handling, in a comfortable package with tons of standard features.

It's safe to say the ID4's dual-motor AWD system is meant more for navigating gravel, snow, and fire roads, or whatever the vehicle's
clearance limits would allow. Certainly nothing hardcore (unless you're in VW's Baja race-prepped ID4s we drove a couple years ago).

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We took an ID4 AWD Pro S on a day trip from Nashville to Chattanooga on both highways and curvy and hilly back roads with no charging
between stops. I managed to go 229 miles out of the advertised 255 miles the AWD Pro S model offers on a single charge, arriving at my
destination with 0 percent charge and 0 miles of range remaining. I had actually driven a handful of miles after I hit zero, and came away
impressed that the car didn't strand me on the side of the road. (For context, another AWD Pro S on the same journey arrived with 27 percent
and 90 miles remaining.)

Considering I'd only switched from "D" driving mode to "B" near the end of my trip, which offers increased energy regeneration to charge
the battery, it's likely I could have preserved more range and gone further had I operated in "B" entirely. I'm also sure the sustained highway
speeds also ultimately zapped away a few miles I could have used. In theory, the ID4's "plug-and-play" relationship with Electrify America
stations, which lets you pull up, plug the car in and automatically start charging if your account is set up, would have made it very easy to
stop for a charge.

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Inside, the standard 12-inch touchscreen display is bright and easy to reach from the driver's seat, offering physical buttons for the main
menu categories and haptic touch buttons for temperature and volume control. The new center console setup now offers more storage
space and a phone charging pad, and the previous year's cloth seats have been upgraded to standard new mélange fabric and leatherette,
and offer plenty of support and comfort for at least 200 miles of sitting. The newly introduced "Galaxy" interior color on S, Pro S, and
AWD Pro S would be the one to get, bringing in blue accents on top of a white steering wheel and white seats.

The estimated 6-second run to 60 mph for the ID4 AWD Pro models could be considered slow for a modern AWD EV; however, the more
relaxed power delivery is progressive and actually comfortable. Passing another vehicle at high speed, however, resulted in
less-than-desirable acceleration, so only pass if you know you have the room.

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Some Gripes Persist
The ID4 comes with four drive modes: Eco, Comfort, Sport, and a configurable custom mode. Each slightly tweaks the throttle mapping
of the electric motors and the steering heft. However, the differences between each mode are hardly distinct enough to make a significant alteration to most day-to-day driving. You're not missing out on much if you drive it exclusively in Eco to save on range. All-wheel drive
ID4s come with a tow hitch equipped and are rated to tow 2,700 pounds.

Despite some interior updates, the dashboard and infotainment setup carry over for 2023, as do our gripes with the system. The haptic
piano-black controls for the volume and temperature settings would be better and easier to use for the driver as real buttons. Some touch
points on the foot-wide screen, like the heated seat activation, only appear on the left side, far away from where a passenger can reach it.

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Our test car really struggled with Apple CarPlay on two occasions, forcing me to make the computer "forget" my device in the car's system
to launch at all, and the second instance we had to hard-reset the car by powering it off, taking the key out, walking away and coming back.
VW's engineers believed it was likely an issue with the most recent version of CarPlay, but they would say that, wouldn't they?

Comfort Over Gimmicks
The ID4 is a tricky one to write about, mostly because it does such a good job at being a regular Volkswagen SUV that also just happens
to be a decent EV. There's no real moonshot here; VW is focused on delivering a comfortable and practical package, and there aren't any
gimmicks. It may not have anything that particularly stands out, but the comfortable ride and extensive powertrain options makes the ID4
still worth considering against the likes of the Nissan Ariya, Tesla Model Y, and Ford Mustang Mach-E.

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2023 VW ID4 EV Specifications
PRICE37,495 (ID4 RWD Standard)
$42,495 (ID4 RWD S)
$42,495 (ID4 RWD Pro)
$47,495 (ID4 RWD Pro S)
$49,945 (ID4 RWD Pro S Plus)
$46,295 (ID4 AWD Pro)
$51,295 (ID4 AWD Pro S) (as tested)
$53,745 (ID4 AWD Pro S Plus)
$1,295 (destination)
VEHICLE LAYOUT5-pass, 5-door EV SUV
RWD: rear single permanent magnet synchronous motor
AWD: front asynchronous motor, rear single permanent magnet synchronous motor
Single-speed auto gearbox per powered axle
BATTERY62 kWh (58 kWh net): Standard RWD, S RWD
82 kWh (77 kWh net): Pro RWD, Pro S RWD, Pro AWD, Pro S AWD
MOTOR TYPERWD: rear single permanent magnet synchronous AC motor
AWD: front asynchronous motor, rear single permanent magnet synchronous motor
POWER (SAE NET)RWD: 201 hp; AWD: 295 hp
TORQUE (SAE NET)RWD: 229 lb-ft; AWD: 339 lb-ft
TRANSMISSIONOne single-speed transmission per powered axle
CURB WEIGHT (F/R DIST)4,317 - 4,877 lbs
WHEELBASE108.9 in
LENGTH x WIDTH x HEIGHT180.5 x 72.9 x 64.5 in
0-60 MPHRWD: 7.4 sec (MT test)
AWD: 6.0 sec (mfr est)
EPA FUEL ECONStandard RWD, S RWD, Pro RWD, Pro S RWD: 115 cty, 98 hwy, 107 comb. mpg (est)
Pro AWD, Pro S AWD: 104 cty, 93 hwy, 99 comb. mpg (est)
EPA RANGE, COMBStandard RWD: 209 miles
S RWD: 209 miles
Pro RWD: 275 miles
Pro S RWD: 275 miles
Pro AWD: 255 miles
Pro S AWD: 255 miles
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“The newly introduced "Galaxy" interior color on S, Pro S, and AWD Pro S would be the one to get, bringing in blue accents on top of a white steering wheel and white seats.”

I thought galaxy was the dark interior and cosmic was the white interior?
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VW should offer a retrofit of the illuminated rear VW badge for those of us who waited for the updates ;)
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I find the CarPlay issues they mention really vexing. My ID4 has rarely struggled with CarPlay, and then only for a few seconds until it connected, with one exception. In fact, I'd say it's been my best CarPlay experience thus far.
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“The newly introduced "Galaxy" interior color on S, Pro S, and AWD Pro S would be the one to get, bringing in blue accents on top of a white steering wheel and white seats.”

I thought galaxy was the dark interior and cosmic was the white interior?
It is. Cosmic is that interior pictures. Credibility = 0. Did not read anymore. :ROFLMAO:

No, but overall, good read.
I find the CarPlay issues they mention really vexing. My ID4 has rarely struggled with CarPlay, and then only for a few seconds until it connected, with one exception. In fact, I'd say it's been my best CarPlay experience thus far.
Same experience here. I also have the latest iOS beta and have had zero issues during any of the iOS versions I’ve used. Maybe they’re using an iPhone 6 or something that barely supports CarPlay to begin with.
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Same experience here. I also have the latest iOS beta and have had zero issues during any of the iOS versions I’ve used. Maybe they’re using an iPhone 6 or something that barely supports CarPlay to begin with.
Maybe they are trying to use an android phone with car play…
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VW should offer a retrofit of the illuminated rear VW badge for those of us who waited for the updates ;)
I would like to think our 2022 model that took 10 months would have the same LED in the rear logo? Isn’t it just software? Or a different logo?
"considering I'd only switched from "D" driving mode to "B" near the end of my trip, which offers increased energy regeneration to charge the battery, it's likely I could have preserved more range and gone further had I operated in "B" entirely."

"B" mode will never out efficient "D" mode. Coasting and not wasting any energy with breaking will result in better performance / distance, vs capturing some energy by accelerating and decelerating more frequently with "B" mode. Breaking in "D" mode uses the motors to Regen as well and not use the break pads earlier.
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My favorite is when going down the mountains using D until I am going a little too fast then putting it into B to slow it down, repeat. Probably completely unnecessary but futuristically entertaining. 🛸
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The heated seats for the passenger can be activated by touching both red and blue temp buttons on the passenger side at the same time.
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Same experience here. I also have the latest iOS beta and have had zero issues during any of the iOS versions I’ve used. Maybe they’re using an iPhone 6 or something that barely supports CarPlay to begin with.
My iPhone 12 with always latest release iOS fails to connect to wireless CarPlay in about 1 of 20 cases ('21 ID.4). I do infotainment reboot when an immediate fix is needed. ( I know the post is about '23, just sharing the experience).
I would like to think our 2022 model that took 10 months would have the same LED in the rear logo? Isn’t it just software? Or a different logo?
The rear logo illumination requires additional LED hardware that was not sadly included on the FE and 2021 models
It's concerning to read statements like 'only pass if you have room to do so.' Like, yes, that's how you drive.
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"B" mode will never out efficient "D" mode. Coasting and not wasting any energy with breaking will result in better performance / distance, vs capturing some energy by accelerating and decelerating more frequently with "B" mode. Breaking in "D" mode uses the motors to Regen as well and not use the break pads earlier.
That's Newton's 1st law put into practice.
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I find the CarPlay issues they mention really vexing. My ID4 has rarely struggled with CarPlay, and then only for a few seconds until it connected, with one exception. In fact, I'd say it's been my best CarPlay experience thus far.
Are you using wireless CarPlay / have you done anything to tweak your settings / what software is your ID4 on?

My biggest frustration with my 2022 ID.4 Pro S with 3.1.0 is how slow it is to connect to wireless CarPlay on startup (iPhone 12 Pro, iOS 16.0). It takes a solid 60 seconds from when my butt hits the seat, every time. And it requires user interaction: first I hit "OK" to confirm driver profile, then I press the CarPlay icon, then I press a third button on the popup.

I've been trying to figure out if this is normal behavior or if there's something wrong with my setup. In other cars I've tried, wireless CarPlay connects quickly without any user interaction. I tried disconnecting/reconnecting my phone once without any improvement, welcome further suggestions to troubleshooting.
Are you using wireless CarPlay / have you done anything to tweak your settings / what software is your ID4 on?

My biggest frustration with my 2022 ID.4 Pro S with 3.1.0 is how slow it is to connect to wireless CarPlay on startup (iPhone 12 Pro, iOS 16.0). It takes a solid 60 seconds from when my butt hits the seat, every time. And it requires user interaction: first I hit "OK" to confirm driver profile, then I press the CarPlay icon, then I press a third button on the popup.

I've been trying to figure out if this is normal behavior or if there's something wrong with my setup. In other cars I've tried, wireless CarPlay connects quickly without any user interaction. I tried disconnecting/reconnecting my phone once without any improvement, welcome further suggestions to troubleshooting.
The user profile thing is unrelated. But yes it takes about 30-60 seconds to connect on mine too. Don’t bother hitting the CarPlay icon to connect, as those steps are not necessary. Just sit there and wait and it will automatic connect when it’s ready
The rear logo illumination requires additional LED hardware that was not sadly included on the FE and 2021 models
Question is whether it is just a wire and an LED fixture, or is there a computer involved that would prevent it to be retrofitted to older models.
It will be interesting to see what the uptake is on the smaller battery option, considering that everybody seems to be wanting a 600 mile range EV so bad.
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