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$6.19 Seatbelt Trick to keep climate system on while parked.

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txxthie
Until there is the equivalent of dog or camp mode this will have to do. I got tired of doing seatbelt gymnastics to keep the a/c on while parked. Legal Disclosure: I am not advocating this technique so use it at your own risk!
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Watch Tesla Bjorn’s video linked for an explanation of this.

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p7wang
Re: Dog mode
When the A/C is running, are you able to lock the doors? Or can anyone get into the car and drive away?
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dg4prez
What's this for exactly? Passenger AC?
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txxthie
dg4prez said:
What's this for exactly? Passenger AC?
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A/C in general while parked with Driver’s seat unoccupied. Seatbelt + Seat have sensors integrated in them. See video above.
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p7wang said:
Re: Dog mode
When the A/C is running, are you able to lock the doors? Or can anyone get into the car and drive away?
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No you can’t lock doors with keyfob outside vehicle (inside passenger can lock vehicle) and if key is not detected in vehicle it can’t be moved. See Tesla Bjorn’s videos for more explanation.
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txxthie said:
Until there is the equivalent of dog or camp mode this will have to do. I got tired of doing seatbelt gymnastics to keep the a/c on while parked. Legal Disclosure: I am not advocating this hack so use at your own risk!
Amazon.com: 2PACKS Car Seat Belt Clip, Car Seat Belt Silencer Metal Tongue, Seat Safety Belt Buckle Auto Metal Seat, Universal for Most Vehicle-Black : Automotive
Watch Tesla Bjorn’s video linked for an explanation of this.

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You can just reach inside car and push start button on the steering column and the air will keep running. You must be out of the seat before pushing button. I was able to leave my dog this way and it did not shut off. No hacks. Designed to work this way.
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Flmatthew said:
I was able to leave my dog this way and it did not shut off.
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How long? I'd be concerned about a timeout mode for anything over 10 minutes. Any idea of whether this would or would not be affected by the 90 pound Lab sitting in the driver's seat looking cute for everybody in the parking lot? Then, leaving the seat possibly triggering a timeout? The lack of a door opening may also affect how the car behaves with a dog inside.

I just wish VW would include a Dog Mode OTA, or issue some factory guidance on how to accomplish dog mode--knowing the exact parameters--with current settings (in vehicle's country) so you could be confident enough to leave for a half an hour, or so.
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Nai3t
The push the start button method times out, and my sense is it runs at reduced output.

The seatbelt hack leaves the car in a drive ready state, full output, no timeout, and radio if it's wanted. But there's enough protection that the car can't be driven without a key present.
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Flmatthew said:
You can just reach inside car and push start button on the steering column and the air will keep running. You must be out of the seat before pushing button. I was able to leave my dog this way and it did not shut off. No hacks. Designed to work this way.
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Its good to know that VW has some purpose for that button other than visual, but as stated below by another member, it is limited in its effectiveness. Its like humans having a tailbone, its a vestigial structure still present in legacy autos. Its frustrating how legacy auto is 1/2 committed to making a vehicle comparable to Tesla. They think we want buttons and to slowly transition into software driven vehicles like Tesla. I sold a Tesla M3 weeks ago due to the crazy used car market and purchased an ID 4 because of the 3 years of EA charging and $7500 tax credit. If either of those weren’t on the table, I wouldn't have purchased ID 4. Truthfully, I have been pleasantly surprised by some pros of the VW: ID Light + Hello ID, Dynamic Headlights/Amber Turn LED Lights, Massaging Seats, Powered Headliner, Ambient lights, Wireless Apple CarPlay, Great Rain sensing wipers, lighted door handles + puddle lights, overall price value, and insane turning circle. Can VW and legacy auto improve software as quick as Tesla is improving manufacturing. So far that is not been the case, Tesla will soon be producing Model Y's + 3's with front and rear castings and stuctural battery pack. Sandy Munro called this the holy grail-the perfect build. I plan on taking full advantage of the EA free 3 year fast charging to drive my ID 4 all over the US. I will miss the beautiful software that Tesla vehicles have: walkaway lock, 1 pedal driving, GPS Homelink, phone as a key, auto hold, route planning that incorporates your actual fast chargers (EA) with real-time stats, plug and go fast charging, dog and camp mode, etc. All these can be incorporated by VW with updated software. Can VW the company change its DNA to compete with this new class of transportation developed by the market EV leader Tesla, or is it too late already? Read Clayton Christensen's excellent book "Disruptive Innovation" for more answers. Sorry for getting off topic, but the worthless start button triggered me...LOL
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Flmatthew said:
You can just reach inside car and push start button on the steering column and the air will keep running. You must be out of the seat before pushing button. I was able to leave my dog this way and it did not shut off. No hacks. Designed to work this way.
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I did this sitting in passenger seat and it turned off after 20min. Sorry dog🙂
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txxthie said:
No you can’t lock doors with keyfob outside vehicle (inside passenger can lock vehicle) and if key is not detected in vehicle it can’t be moved. See Tesla Bjorn’s videos for more explanation.
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Can't you lock the front door(s) with the mechanical key in the FOB?
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User @Erhard reports being able to lock the door after exiting with the seatbelt engaged. He is also the one who confirmed that the car won't go into gear without a key being present.

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Turning off the car and wait in it while wife shops

I would like to wait in the drivers seat while my wife shops, but cannot figure out how to turn the car completely off and hopefully not set the alarm. I have tried pushing the on/off switch next to the steering column to off, the display will say "Goodbye" but the car will continue with the...
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edit: oops sorry Erhard I didn't realize you're already in this thread!
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txxthie said:
Its good to know that VW has some purpose for that button other than visual, but as stated below by another member, it is limited in its effectiveness. Its like humans having a tailbone, its a vestigial structure still present in legacy autos. Its frustrating how legacy auto is 1/2 committed to making a vehicle comparable to Tesla. They think we want buttons and to slowly transition into software driven vehicles like Tesla. I sold a Tesla M3 weeks ago due to the crazy used car market and purchased an ID 4 because of the 3 years of EA charging and $7500 tax credit. If either of those weren’t on the table, I wouldn't have purchased ID 4. Truthfully, I have been pleasantly surprised by some pros of the VW: ID Light + Hello ID, Dynamic Headlights/Amber Turn LED Lights, Massaging Seats, Powered Headliner, Ambient lights, Wireless Apple CarPlay, Great Rain sensing wipers, lighted door handles + puddle lights, overall price value, and insane turning circle. Can VW and legacy auto improve software as quick as Tesla is improving manufacturing. So far that is not been the case, Tesla will soon be producing Model Y's + 3's with front and rear castings and stuctural battery pack. Sandy Munro called this the holy grail-the perfect build. I plan on taking full advantage of the EA free 3 year fast charging to drive my ID 4 all over the US. I will miss the beautiful software that Tesla vehicles have: walkaway lock, 1 pedal driving, GPS Homelink, phone as a key, auto hold, route planning that incorporates your actual fast chargers (EA) with real-time stats, plug and go fast charging, dog and camp mode, etc. All these can be incorporated by VW with updated software. Can VW the company change its DNA to compete with this new class of transportation developed by the market EV leader Tesla, or is it too late already? Read Clayton Christensen's excellent book "Disruptive Innovation" for more answers. Sorry for getting off topic, but the worthless start button triggered me...LOL
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Well said. The car has great potential with right software
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TPG said:
Can't you lock the front door(s) with the mechanical key in the FOB?
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Not sure, haven’t tried, but sounds possible, just not very convenient :)
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txxthie said:
Not sure, haven’t tried, but sounds possible, just not very convenient :)
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Huh, never used a key in a lock ?!
I did that all the time when fast charging my RAV4 EV - had to leave the car on to charge it vis CHAdeMO
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TPG said:
Huh, never used a key in a lock ?!
I did that all the time when fast charging my RAV4 EV - had to leave the car on to charge it vis CHAdeMO
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No mechanical locks, convenience is king, I have been using electronic locks, smart locks, and smartphones for years. I did help a friend recently using the dummy key in a 2020 Porsche key fob. It was not an easy process. The Porsche technician said it should be done only for emergencies, easy to damage handle. Modern cars are mostly electronic and the mechanical unlocking mechanisms are not as robust as in the past. As a side note: I keep setting off the panic car alarm with this ID 4, it’s annoying, is a case the only answer?
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txxthie said:
As a side note: I keep setting off the panic car alarm with this ID 4, it’s annoying, is a case the only answer?
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IMHO, yes. Anything to keep from hearing that nasty ID.4 horn. I have this one, similar to the one from Post #19 in thread linked below. There are several others on Amazon:
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What's happening in my pocket? (Panic Car Alarm)

Funny title I know; but an annoying issue. On two different occasions now I have been driving my FE when suddenly the horn alarm will go off and the hazard lights are blinking. The only way I can turn this off is to press the unlock doors button on my key remote. Now on both occasions I was...
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Tinman said:
IMHO, yes. Anything to keep from hearing that nasty ID.4 horn. I have this one, similar to the one from Post #19 in thread linked below. There are several others on Amazon:
www.amazon.com

Amazon.com: iJDMTOY Black Soft Silicone Key Fob Cover w/Red Stripe Compatible with Volkswagen MK8 Golf/GTI, Skoda Octavia with 3/4/5-Button Smart key : Automotive

Buy iJDMTOY Black Soft Silicone Key Fob Cover w/Red Stripe Compatible with Volkswagen MK8 Golf/GTI, Skoda Octavia with 3/4/5-Button Smart key: Keychains - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases
www.amazon.com

www.vwidtalk.com

What's happening in my pocket? (Panic Car Alarm)

Funny title I know; but an annoying issue. On two different occasions now I have been driving my FE when suddenly the horn alarm will go off and the hazard lights are blinking. The only way I can turn this off is to press the unlock doors button on my key remote. Now on both occasions I was...
www.vwidtalk.com www.vwidtalk.com
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My sentiments exactly, I am glad I am not the only one experiencing this problem. My girlfriend was blaming me every time it happened, I will have to show her this thread. Super embarrassing trying to find the key when horn is blaring and telling everyone your fancy electric SUV is having problems.
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txxthie said:
My sentiments exactly, I am glad I am not the only one experiencing this problem. My girlfriend was blaming me every time it happened, I will have to show her this thread. Super embarrassing trying to find the key when horn is blaring and telling everyone your fancy electric SUV is having problems.
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TinMan......Purchased Key Fob Holder, thanks!
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