[heavyt]

I put a 20-lb weight in the driver's seat (with a pillow and a small square plywood to spread the load evenly),
this made the ID.4 "play nice" with the Charging Schedule settings.

I then tried it out, using a setting to have a 90% charge by 7 am. It works like a charm.

Hope this is some help until VW sends out a fix. 🤞 🤞

 

[FinleyFinn]

Very interesting. What made you think of running this experiment?
It is also noteworthy that you got 270mi range at 90% SOC!

 

[ExCivilian]

This is an interesting theory. I can't explain the source of this bug if the weight is the triggering event. We need someone to test it both ways: with the weight and without the weight and see if the same results occur. Ideally, charge it to an amount and then leave the plug in the vehicle and then charge it an extra amount to isolate whether the weight is the variable. If it's done on different days it could be the plug that's the variable. For me, and a few others, the vehicle didn't charge correctly because the plug wasn't fully latched.

 

[heavyt]

Not a theory! It works. I have tried charging with and without the weight. Using the weight just works. Try it and report back.

 

[Eyegautdis]

I would love to know if it fixes things for someone else. I wonder if the weight on the seat is keeping the car's computer from "falling asleep" as they often do to save power. Of course this might add extra drain on the 12v so you should probably keep an eye on that but I would hope the car would periodically check and top off the 12v.

 

[heavyt]

Very interesting. What made you think of running this experiment?
It also noteworthy that you got 270mi range at 90% SOC!

Good question! It was more of a shot in the dark.
270mi going down hill!

 

[fiehlsport]

Did you leave the keyfob in the car during this, effectively turning the car on, or no?

I think without the fob, weight in the seat is kind of like pushing the start button once in a normal car, but without actually turning the ignition on. Must keep the computers awake. I don't think this would cause a 12V issue because the DC to DC converter is probably keeping the 12V topped up from the HV battery. But maybe the DC to DC doesn't turn on unless the car is in "ignition on" mode. Hard to say. Thanks for finding this out! I'll be able to save a bit of $$ on charging now.

 

[ericy]

Did you leave the keyfob in the car during this, effectively turning the car on, or no?

I think without the fob, weight in the seat is kind of like pushing the start button once in a normal car, but without actually turning the ignition on. Must keep the computers awake. I don't think this would cause a 12V issue because the DC to DC converter is probably keeping the 12V topped up from the HV battery. But maybe the DC to DC doesn't turn on unless the car is in "ignition on" mode. Hard to say. Thanks for finding this out! I'll be able to save a bit of $$ on charging now.

It reminds me of what Bjorn had to do in order to sleep in the ID.4 - he put a weight on the drivers seat so the car wouldn't completely shut off (a workaround for the lack of a camping mode, I guess). In his case, he wanted the heat running (at least at a minimal level) while he was sleeping in back.

But this finding suggests that the problem is mainly related to the car going to sleep when it probably shouldn't. Tomorrow, I may need to go on a road trip to nowhere so I can test some of these things myself.

 

[tommyb]

I put a 20-lb weight in the driver's seat (with a pillow and a small square plywood to spread the load evenly),
this made the ID.4 "play nice" with the Charging Schedule settings.

I then tried it out, using a setting to have a 90% charge by 7 am. It works like a charm.

Hope this is some help until VW sends out a fix. 🤞 🤞 View attachment 3294 View attachment 3295 View attachment 3296 View attachment 3294 View attachment 3295 View attachment 3296

I guess I missed an earlier post - what issue is causing a need for the workaround?

 

[TPG]

I guess I missed an earlier post - what issue is causing a need for the workaround?

The issue is that delayed charging doesn't work in the ID.4 - it will not charge to the level you specify by the departure time you set: ID.4 charging issues (without specific faults) &amp...

 

[heavyt]

No, I didn't leave the keys in the car. I wish I could say I know why this work-around works. I figured the car comes alive when there is weight in the seat, so l gave it a try, a shot in the dark.

Did you leave the keyfob in the car during this, effectively turning the car on, or no?

I think without the fob, weight in the seat is kind of like pushing the start button once in a normal car, but without actually turning the ignition on. Must keep the computers awake. I don't think this would cause a 12V issue because the DC to DC converter is probably keeping the 12V topped up from the HV battery. But maybe the DC to DC doesn't turn on unless the car is in "ignition on" mode. Hard to say. Thanks for finding this out! I'll be able to save a bit of $$ on charging now.

 

[heavyt]

Do you know how much weight did Bjorn use?

 

[theboomr]

I've been meaning to ask, when y'all are talking about setting scheduled charging, can you please confirm for me exactly where to access that setting? I thought I found it but I think I was only looking at the departure time settings for preconditioning the climate control...are those the same settings?

 

[ExCivilian]

I've been meaning to ask, when y'all are talking about setting scheduled charging, can you please confirm for me exactly where to access that setting? I thought I found it but I think I was only looking at the departure time settings for preconditioning the climate control...are those the same settings?

When you go into vehicle, charging page, click on locations and when you save a charge location you can edit the settings in there.

 

[fiehlsport]

When you go into vehicle, charging page, click on locations and when you save a charge location you can edit the settings in there.

Such an unintuitive place for it. Hope this is more logical in the next update. Took me minutes to find it as well. It should be on a page called “Charging.”

 

[theboomr]

When you go into vehicle, charging page, click on locations and when you save a charge location you can edit the settings in there.

Ahhh ok, I forgot that it was behind the locations part of the charging page. Thanks. Now I will be able to test the scheduled charging bug on level 1 charging this weekend probably.

 

[ExCivilian]

Such an unintuitive place for it. Hope this is more logical in the next update. Took me minutes to find it as well. It should be on a page called “Charging.”

I can pretty much guarantee that's not going to change. The "charging" section already exists, which is the choice right above "locations" and displays what is happening while it's charging. You can set the charge limit from the Charging page so the only thing left to adjust is a departure and TOU, which are arguably best adjusted location specific.

 

[Huey52]

I've been meaning to ask, when y'all are talking about setting scheduled charging, can you please confirm for me exactly where to access that setting? I thought I found it but I think I was only looking at the departure time settings for preconditioning the climate control...are those the same settings?

 

[fiehlsport]

Did you leave the keyfob in the car during this, effectively turning the car on, or no?

I think without the fob, weight in the seat is kind of like pushing the start button once in a normal car, but without actually turning the ignition on. Must keep the computers awake. I don't think this would cause a 12V issue because the DC to DC converter is probably keeping the 12V topped up from the HV battery. But maybe the DC to DC doesn't turn on unless the car is in "ignition on" mode. Hard to say. Thanks for finding this out! I'll be able to save a bit of $$ on charging now.

Just tested with weight in the seat. The 12v will not drain because the DC to DC converter turns on in this state, keeping the battery topped up around 14v. When you remove the weight, the battery voltage drops back down to 12.

This is, therefore, a great workaround!

 

[beamman]

Just tested with weight in the seat. The 12v will not drain because the DC to DC converter turns on in this state, keeping the battery topped up around 14v. When you remove the weight, the battery voltage drops back down to 12.

This is, therefore, a great workaround!

How much weight did you use? I'm hoping that can get away with less than 20 lbs.