Ordered a rwd gradient in august. Originally NOV-DEC now shows DEC-JAN. been at 15-1 for weeks. it is clear to me there is no reasonable way for this car to arrive before the end of the year. ( In San Diego). Additionally web site is deceptive and there are a lot of differences between what i was shown at dealer and what i actually got. (no trailer hitch for example).. I simply will not pay full price for a 2021 model in 2022. Thinking about waiting till the car arrives and then cancelling and ordering a car form someone else. or keeping my current car for a while longer. as a previous VW owner I thought it would be better than this. I know a lot of AWD buyers have been waiting longer but I don't think VW is doing a good job for us.
Anyone else about done?
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If it's buult the last week of December it'll be a 2022 model year, and who knows, maybe will be equipped with vehicle-to-grid. But you're right, if it's buult the second-to-last week of the year, it'll be a 2021 and your complaint stands.
I get there are all kinds of production constraints at the moment, but VW would only be helping themselves but being more forthcoming to their order holders.
I get there are all kinds of production constraints at the moment, but VW would only be helping themselves but being more forthcoming to their order holders.
Someone will be very happy to get the car you ordered. Good luck.
ID.4 Pro RWD, Moonstone Gray (the cheapest version 😎)
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I ordered mine well before yours, and still haven't received it. There is a global pandemic that's led to a supply chain issue; frankly I'm surprised my vehicle isn't delayed more than it already is. So I don't mind waiting in light of all these once in a generation problems. That said, if the car has issues and they can't get parts for a month or two like some people are reporting, then I will be very displeased. VW shouldn't even sell cars if they can't repair them in a timely fashion, leaving people stuck without a vehicle.
You ordered it in August this year? I just got my AWD Pro S and I waited about a year for it. Bear in mind that the ID.4 is a world car, being sold in all markets, and there is currently only one factory (Zwickau) building them. Supply will be very limited until Chattanooga comes online about this time next year. Just being real about the situation...
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But the statement of the thread makers makes sense.....paying MSRP in 2022 for 2021 model makes no sense.
I would not take it even with big discount in 2022 for 2021 model year.
And the more you wait to buy new EV there will be more choices to make.
I would not take it even with big discount in 2022 for 2021 model year.
And the more you wait to buy new EV there will be more choices to make.
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... to include Fuel Cell Toyota Mirai.
I've been enamored by and awaiting fuel cell since the Apollo space missions. But then if you think it's hard to find a DCFC for USA road trips can you imagine a hydrogen station? Pretty much left coast only and mostly SoCal where the Mirai has been undergoing end user testing.
Then again 5 minute refueling and far greater range!
Then again 5 minute refueling and far greater range!
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It took me 4.5 months of waiting between locking my order and receiving my car. The wait feels endless but the website isn't deceptive, it's just not that accurate. Mine said delivery Sep-Oct and I got it mid October so yes, I hoped for September 1 but October 16 was still within the range promised. With the chip crisis, there is definitely instability in the supply chain that can impact production for basically any car from any dealer. You can get mad at VW because you are impatient but all you will accomplish by cancelling your order is you will tell yourself you 'won' and beat the evil corporation that was trying to screw you, all while not having a car or not the car you wanted. VW won't care as they will simply sell your car to someone else who will pay MSRP and love his/her car. As far as things like tow hitch are concerned, that is very clear on the website - FE had it, Pro S RWD does not, but AWD does. You can still install one yourself (I'm installing one on mine this afternoon).
I agree, if it’s the car you want then work with the dealer and buy the car. If it’s in the 2022 year and is a 2021 car most dealers or reputable dealers will work with you over the price of the car. It’s not the dealers fault if you didn’t do your research and look at specs of the vehicle you bought or ask questions about a different model. Yes the 1st Addition is the only one that comes standard with the trailer hitch and a few other cosmic additions that others don’t have, that’s an advantage of a 1st addition, but those of us who bought know that we are also test subjects For a new concept car. As far as parts, it is anywhere from 1 to 3 weeks to get parts but again not really the dealers or VW fault. If you haven’t noticed because of the lack people wanting to work we have a major supply change issue and this is world wide. We also have an issue with shop personal. No one wants to go back to work globally. Our dealer is short 7 shop employees, he has tried to interview but over 80% of the the people who call for an interview don’t show. I am one that had to wait for parts and wait for the only trained trained mechanic to replace modules in our car, yes it is frustrating but the car is running well, both my wife and I love the the car and our dealer was great with loaners and rentals and compensation for gas while ours was getting fixed.
Extremely expensive fuel and you can’t fuel at home like you can a BEV.
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There is company in US that was banned to come to market 10+ years ago that use (like CD disc) to store hydrogen and while exposed to laser light it chemically change to hydrogen again. But now they are allowed to get to market.
Toyota is playing with fusion experiments as next type of energy to move economies.
There where many more great inventions scrapped under the carpet by crude oil industry.....because they are not happy something or someone is getting to market as better than crude oils.
I would ask you to find just about any model of new car now at almost any dealer. There is a global chip shortage that the "experts" are saying will last well into 2022. VW is no exception. Have you passed any new car dealer's lot lately? I do not know where you are but on a recent trip from South Texas to Albuquerque and return NO dealer had any inventory. Most lots were filled with used cars, and there were not many of those.
It is your dollars so do what you must but this is affecting millions right now.
It is your dollars so do what you must but this is affecting millions right now.
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I'm sorry but you don't see the thousands of complaints they can't fix. VW has no idea what is wrong with the programming software. Don't buy it. But a Hyundai or Kia. Better tech, better charging, more torque, better thought out.
Couldn't disagree more.....but hey, it's up to the individual what vehicle they want to purchase.
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Kona battery fire has entered the chat.
Interesting. Then how come when I asked actual owners to rate their car compared to previous cars, not a single vote is negative? https://www.vwidtalk.com/threads/how-does-your-id4-compare-to-your-previous-cars.4130/
The 2021 models aren’t turning into pumpkins at midnight on December 31st. If nothing else, those very late 2021 will have up to full year less mileage and wear and would likely have a better residual value.
I’ve ordered mine in early April, it’s on its way and may arrive by year end after a 9 months wait. It’s not ideal but dealing with the current fuel restrictions we have in place not to mention fuel cost there is no way I would walk away from my order even if delivered in January.
I’ve ordered mine in early April, it’s on its way and may arrive by year end after a 9 months wait. It’s not ideal but dealing with the current fuel restrictions we have in place not to mention fuel cost there is no way I would walk away from my order even if delivered in January.
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Too late, ordered it, got it, and been driving for 6 weeks with a big smile on my face. Zero issues including software. No issues with the lack of 'better tech' (what does that even mean), better charging (how so?) more torque (who says I want more torque?) or 'better thought out' (what does that mean...)
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What kind of fuel restrictions are you enduring? Haven't heard about this.
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I managed to get an AWD ID 4 in mid-October when someone cancelled their order. The Silver was not my first choice color but I was happy to jump the line -- the sales lady called me before it was off the truck and I jumped at the chance -- I suspect it would be months until VW built the Blue one I had ordered. The AWD has terrific acceleration and handles curves very well -- I couldn't be happier. Had 2 Bolts recalled -- still waiting for GM to complete repurchase number 2, so I suspect that there are a lot of other former Bolt owners competing for all available reasonable priced EVs.
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