[EVone]

Or roughly 300 Miles City driving. Talking about a lot of Miles not your 5 mile trip to Walmart

I drive Rideshare and have a 2017 Bolt right now, range is good in summer ..I'm actually getting 4.5 miles/kWh in City but the slow Charge times are just killing me as is winter range (30-40% loss ..Minnesota Winters).


I have had it 13 Months.. great Car but older tech ... the range on the ID 4 is roughly the same but more importantly the charge rate (125kW) is 2 1/2 times FASTER than the Bolts 50kW


anyway, anyone getting close to 300 Miles in City AND has anyone have any REAL range Winter range to talk about .. is the loss about the same as the Bolt 30-40% ..or is it better.

I'm "thinking" it may be close to "only" 20-25% loss if I am reading correctly that the ID 4 battery management can keep the battery at 77 degrees no matter the weather?

TIA

 

[EVone]

While I am at it.. RWD is fine.. that's why God made Snow Tires ... I would like the heated windshield though

Other words not waiting for the AWD version

 

[Gazzy644]

Or roughly 300 Miles City driving. Talking about a lot of Miles not your 5 mile trip to Walmart

I drive Rideshare and have a 2017 Bolt right now, range is good in summer ..I'm actually getting 4.5 miles/kWh in City but the slow Charge times are just killing me as is winter range (30-40% loss ..Minnesota Winters).


I have had it 13 Months.. great Car but older tech ... the range on the ID 4 is roughly the same but more importantly the charge rate (125kW) is 2 1/2 times FASTER than the Bolts 50kW


anyway, anyone getting close to 300 Miles in City AND has anyone have any REAL range Winter range to talk about .. is the loss about the same as the Bolt 30-40% ..or is it better.

I'm "thinking" it may be close to "only" 20-25% loss if I am reading correctly that the ID 4 battery management can keep the battery at 77 degrees no matter the weather?

TIA

after a 1000 miles, I’m averaging around 3.4 mi/kw. That includes around 60% highway driving. If you get the pro trim (smaller wheels and lighter overall) It would be fairly easy to achieve 4.0 mi/kw in the summer.

 

[ChristophW]

I doubt you’ll find winter range figures. The first US deliveries happened in mid March. You can find some ID3 winter reports from Europe and extrapolate. Or plug parameters into an app and see what their model predicts.

 

[jdean]

I generally get 4.0 miles/kWh or better in city driving with my ID.4 Pro S. I have not done a lot of highway driving yet, but in our last 50 mile trip we got about 2.8 miles/kWh on a windy rainy day with the air conditioning defrost on for the front windshield.

 

[Dave Mc]

I "struggle" to get 3.0 miles/kWh in my Pro, as I enjoy the torqueiness taking off the line waaaay too much. Maybe the thrill will wear off (I've not had the car two months yet), but I'm kinda doubting it. I did an 1,100-mile road trip a few weeks ago & averaged right at 3.0 miles/kWh, so it can be done - if I can just get my right foot to be a little lighter.

 

[gtwhitegold]

I can get up to 3.4 m/kwh in the San Diego area if I try. I find it difficult to get much better than that. Between my wife and I, we're averaging around 3.1 m/kwh which I think is pretty good with all things considered.

 

[GTiD4]

I'm averaging 3.6 mi/kwh commuting from White Bear Lake into St. Paul (70+% hwy). Can't wait to see what winter will be like with RWD, at least I won't need a bunch of sand bags like it did with my 87' Crown Victoria.

 

[EVone]

after a 1000 miles, I’m averaging around 3.4 mi/kw. That includes around 60% highway driving. If you get the pro trim (smaller wheels and lighter overall) It would be fairly easy to achieve 4.0 mi/kw in the summer.

Thanks Gazzy... Yes agree on the smaller wheels

I'm averaging 3.6 mi/kwh commuting from White Bear Lake into St. Paul (70+% hwy). Can't wait to see what winter will be like with RWD, at least I won't need a bunch of sand bags like it did with my 87' Crown Victoria.

GT.. I'm over in St Cloud . Please keep my posted as we enter colder temps this fall. I'm doing rideshare . Most of the time I am in St Cloud but twice a week I have a Airport run to MSP and really interested in winter range as well .

 

[PacNWStateofMind]

I'm averaging 3.6 mi/kwh commuting from White Bear Lake into St. Paul (70+% hwy). Can't wait to see what winter will be like with RWD, at least I won't need a bunch of sand bags like it did with my 87' Crown Victoria.

My first car was a 91 Crown Vic... I am very familiar with the sandbags in the 4-body trunk traction system (my family always felt measurements based on fictional gangster methodology to be more fun than boring cubic inches). Though one icy day In Boston proved that physics would always win out - not a crash, but I was well and truly stuck in my driveway and neither me nor the 3 construction guys next door could get my Champaign beauty up the hill and out that day, haha.

 

[mjmenhart]

I've had the ID.4 (Pro S RWD) for about 6 weeks and am now just over 1200 miles, so far I have loved just about everything with this car. There are some nuances that others have mentioned, but I upgraded from a minivan, so pretty much everything feature or performance-wise has been an upgrade for me.

I didn't have any trips of significant length until this weekend, but I can say that I was thoroughly impressed. I live in Columbus, OH and had a trip to Marblehead, OH on Lake Erie for the holiday weekend. About 106 miles each way, and planned some limited local driving while there. There is a 50kw DCFC right about half way, so I thought I might have to stop for a quick boost on the way there to make sure I would have enough to get back for a quick boost to make it home. Not the case, made the whole trip up and back, plus driving there over the weekend with no charges.

I charged to 100% the night before and the morning we left the estimated mileage was 345. I realize there is some recency bias is that estimate, but I drive a mix of highway and local streets, and with over 900 miles total it wasn't as if there was nothing to base it on. I expected it to lower significantly compared to what I actually drove, but as I was approaching the charger on the way I was still around 93% SOC and around 300 estimated miles remaining so I decided to skip it. When I arrived at destination, the estimated range was at 236 (109 estimated reduction) vs 105 miles driven. Driving short trips over the weekend amounted to 30 total miles, but the GOM dropped to 193 by the time we departed for home (43 mile drop). The trip home was actually much worse going from 193 to 60 estimated miles remaining (133) with 106 of actual driving. It was in the mid 90s that day, so likely much more AC and battery cooling.

You may wonder why I'm so happy with this, the estimated range reduced by 285 when only actually driving 245. I'm not that upset by the variance, when driving an ICE, the DTE range estimate could swing as much or more based on hwy vs. city. The trip was not ideal for an EV. I had 4 passengers and luggage, some highway going 70-75, some state routes going 55-65 with a few reductions going through towns and a handful of traffic lights and stop signs. But even without ideal conditions I could have hit 300 miles in a vehicle rated for 250. I'm not going to hesitate about the 188 mile stretch between chargers that was my only concern about taking the ID.4 on vacation or to in laws in Charlotte (I've posted about this before). I knew that there could be some shortcomings being a fairly early adopter of an EV, but now I'm fairly confident this vehicle meet all of my needs.

This is a long answer to your question, and potentially my post is misplaced in this thread, but the question about range was timely. I don't know about the winter reduction, but did have AC running the whole time. I don't know that you would want to charge to 100% every time, but yes, you absolutely could get 300 miles driving in the city with all of the opportunities for regen.

 

[Tinman]

I've had the ID.4 (Pro S RWD) for about 6 weeks and am now just over 1200 miles

That's great news. Out of curiosity, what does your long-term kWh/mi screen show? I live in flat land, with wind, and conservative AC--reliably 3.1-3.3 kWh/mi.

 

[EVone]

I've had the ID.4 (Pro S RWD) for about 6 weeks and am now just over 1200 miles, so far I have loved just about everything with this car. There are some nuances that others have mentioned, but I upgraded from a minivan, so pretty much everything feature or performance-wise has been an upgrade for me.

I didn't have any trips of significant length until this weekend, but I can say that I was thoroughly impressed. I live in Columbus, OH and had a trip to Marblehead, OH on Lake Erie for the holiday weekend. About 106 miles each way, and planned some limited local driving while there. There is a 50kw DCFC right about half way, so I thought I might have to stop for a quick boost on the way there to make sure I would have enough to get back for a quick boost to make it home. Not the case, made the whole trip up and back, plus driving there over the weekend with no charges.

I charged to 100% the night before and the morning we left the estimated mileage was 345. I realize there is some recency bias is that estimate, but I drive a mix of highway and local streets, and with over 900 miles total it wasn't as if there was nothing to base it on. I expected it to lower significantly compared to what I actually drove, but as I was approaching the charger on the way I was still around 93% SOC and around 300 estimated miles remaining so I decided to skip it. When I arrived at destination, the estimated range was at 236 (109 estimated reduction) vs 105 miles driven. Driving short trips over the weekend amounted to 30 total miles, but the GOM dropped to 193 by the time we departed for home (43 mile drop). The trip home was actually much worse going from 193 to 60 estimated miles remaining (133) with 106 of actual driving. It was in the mid 90s that day, so likely much more AC and battery cooling.

You may wonder why I'm so happy with this, the estimated range reduced by 285 when only actually driving 245. I'm not that upset by the variance, when driving an ICE, the DTE range estimate could swing as much or more based on hwy vs. city. The trip was not ideal for an EV. I had 4 passengers and luggage, some highway going 70-75, some state routes going 55-65 with a few reductions going through towns and a handful of traffic lights and stop signs. But even without ideal conditions I could have hit 300 miles in a vehicle rated for 250. I'm not going to hesitate about the 188 mile stretch between chargers that was my only concern about taking the ID.4 on vacation or to in laws in Charlotte (I've posted about this before). I knew that there could be some shortcomings being a fairly early adopter of an EV, but now I'm fairly confident this vehicle meet all of my needs.

This is a long answer to your question, and potentially my post is misplaced in this thread, but the question about range was timely. I don't know about the winter reduction, but did have AC running the whole time. I don't know that you would want to charge to 100% every time, but yes, you absolutely could get 300 miles driving in the city with all of the opportunities for regen.

I charged to 100% the night before and the morning we left the estimated mileage was 345.

Wow.. thats extremely good.. This is your first EV you said? Do you realize how good that is?

 

[mochalatte]

In my limited experience (700 miles in central NC) I've not ventured out of the 3.0 - 3.2 mi/kWh range regardless of whether I'm in the city or driving on the highway with the cruise set to 70 mph. It's been hot since we've had the car and the AC is always working hard, including some idle time when I'm sitting the car learning the ropes. But when I see people talking about 4 mi/kWh, I'm not sure if I could reach that under any circumstances despite the fact that I have the base Pro with the 19" wheels. I'm trying not to be jelly, as the kids would say.

 

[mjmenhart]

That's great news. Out of curiosity, what does your long-term kWh/mi screen show? I live in flat land, with wind, and conservative AC--reliably 3.1-3.3 kWh/mi.

Long term was 3.5 kWh/mi going into that trip, 3.4 kWh/mi coming out of it, so not the best performance, but fairly consistent. I typically drive in ECO mode in D, but will use B if I'm in traffic with a lot of speeding up and slowing down. I did quite a bit of Travel Assist on this trip as well.

Wow.. thats extremely good.. This is your first EV you said? Do you realize how good that is?

It is my first EV, but I've been watching the market for a while. I needed a family car, so there haven't been many (reasonably priced) good options until recently. I felt like 250ish miles would meet my needs 98% of the time, but might not cut it on some longer trips that we do. I feel much better about it now.

 

[EVone]

Long term was 3.5 kWh/mi going into that trip, 3.4 kWh/mi coming out of it, so not the best performance, but fairly consistent. I typically drive in ECO mode in D, but will use B if I'm in traffic with a lot of speeding up and slowing down. I did quite a bit of Travel Assist on this trip as well.


It is my first EV, but I've been watching the market for a while. I needed a family car, so there haven't been many (reasonably priced) good options until recently. I felt like 250ish miles would meet my needs 98% of the time, but might not cut it on some longer trips that we do. I feel much better about it now.

Keep in Mind if you can also charge at 125kWh...and from I have seen the ID 4 keeps that charging curve right at 125kW until about 70% full ...so that's also very tolerable on long trip s..1/2 hour to 80% from 10-120%..


I'm coming from a Chevy Bolt that while my range is close my charging speeds are "dated" at 50kWh .. = 1 1/2 hours from 20%-80% .. so 125kWh is the MAIN reason I am looking at the ID 4 to replace my Bolt.


Yes there are Faster charging coming with the EV 6 , Ioniq etc.. but 125 should work just fine for me

 

[Bindslind]

In my limited experience (700 miles in central NC) I've not ventured out of the 3.0 - 3.2 mi/kWh range regardless of whether I'm in the city or driving on the highway with the cruise set to 70 mph. It's been hot since we've had the car and the AC is always working hard, including some idle time when I'm sitting the car learning the ropes. But when I see people talking about 4 mi/kWh, I'm not sure if I could reach that under any circumstances despite the fact that I have the base Pro with the 19" wheels. I'm trying not to be jelly, as the kids would say.

4 m/kw is something I haven't experienced for any trip. Low 3s seems accurate if your ac is pumping.

 

[Gazzy644]

Keep in Mind if you can also charge at 125kWh...and from I have seen the ID 4 keeps that charging curve right at 125kW until about 70% full ...so that's also very tolerable on long trip s..1/2 hour to 80% from 10-120%..


I'm coming from a Chevy Bolt that while my range is close my charging speeds are "dated" at 50kWh .. = 1 1/2 hours from 20%-80% .. so 125kWh is the MAIN reason I am looking at the ID 4 to replace my Bolt.


Yes there are Faster charging coming with the EV 6 , Ioniq etc.. but 125 should work just fine for me

125KW DC charge rate starting to drop off at around 35% and dips below 100KW at around 50% from what I’ve seen so far.

 

[EVone]

125KW DC charge rate starting to drop off at around 35% and dips below 100KW at around 50% from what I’ve seen so far.

Morning Gazzy


Yes thats right

I was watching a couple other Videos...I believe one was Bjorn (I'll look for them) 2 different Videos where as soon as the first dip starts to occur around 35% they simply moved over to another Charger at the same station and it resumed charging at 125

Still impressive 10-80% in 35 minutes compared to My Bolt which would be rough 10-50% in 1 1/4 hour.


I'm trying to resist getting the ID 4 until I get a chance to test drive the EV-6, Ioniq 5 , Nissan Aryria ... those are the other 3 I am waiting for . Chip shortage pushed some of those back.

Ioniq 5 Charging rate ..6% to 80% in 20 minutes (upto 80 V)

EV 6 is around the same .


Ayria is closer to the ID 4.


Amazing how we have turned the corner from a few EV's to all these new EV's coming out



Keep in mind I am searching for my next Uber Driver vehicle..


the ID 4 is probably the most practical at this point. I love my Bolt but the charging rate simply isnt acceptable anymore

 

[Beav91]

This morning I was getting 4.2. I live in Amish country so there's rolling hills. I have a pro s with the smaller wheels. My top range at 100% charge is around 370 miles. I've been driving hybrids for 10 years and if I apply that style driving I get great range. I can wait for fall to see if I can't hit 400 miles.