[salant76]

A few Q4 Driving reviews have been posted this morning. Hopefully this means more details on US version coming shortly.

Q4 50 Quattro Acceleration test (0-62 and 0-112) Gives an idea on performance for the ID.4 AWD

Q4 40 and Q4 50 Sportback comparison review

 

[My Main Man]

Interested in a 2022 Q4 40 First Edition! Would be an interesting decision, considering my 2021 ID.4 Pro S doesn't deliver until September.

 

[Huey52]

An interesting 💲 decision to be sure. It will be a very pleasant machine to own and operate, as Audi's most always are (over a decade prior myself), but that price differential ...

Interested in a 2022 Q4 40 First Edition! Would be an interesting decision, considering my 2021 ID.4 Pro S doesn't deliver until September.

 

[My Main Man]

Q4 gonna be under $45,000 on base trim.

 

[Huey52]

... but nobody buys base trim. Premium Plus was always my sweet spot.

I once told my wife to get a loaded Camry vs. a base Lexus (back when 2nd gen same frame). But she wanted the badge .... and didn't get base either. 🤣

Q4 gonna be under $45,000 on base trim.

 

[ChristophW]

I find it very interesting that Thomas in the second video above prefers RWD for the better feel and handling while cornering. He also thinks 204 hp is enough, which I completely agree with.

 

[My Main Man]

Need that turning radius for parking lots!

 

[My Main Man]

I need to say I reserved the base 2022 Audi Q4 so that the salesman gives me a sweet deal when my 2021 ID.4 gets delivered in September lol

 

[ChristophW]

Need that turning radius for parking lots!

That's definitely me and my wife. LOVE the tight turning radius. Same on paper as our previous, much smaller Honda Fit, but actually easier and therefore often tighter in practice.

 

[Fahrer]

Autogfuehl reviews are generally quite good. For Thomas has revealed a few improvements in the Q4 over the ID.4 that I appreciate;

1. A more normal instrument cluster.
2. Drive selector on the console vs. the instrument cluster.
3. Actual buttons to control the HVAC.
4. The thin/narrow armrests in the VW are something I really do not like. I would prefer the traditional setup in the Q4.
5. And, although VW generally does a good job with interior quality at any given price point, Audi is generally a leader in interior design and quality.

The bottom line for me is that I would prefer the Audi but what is the real price difference between the two? And, what standard features might be missing in the base model Audi (perhaps a heated steering wheel?) compared to the VW? A $5K price differential would be a no-brainer for me. A $10K differential?.... I don't know.

 

[PacNWStateofMind]

Autogfuehl reviews are generally quite good. For Thomas has revealed a few improvements in the Q4 over the ID.4 that I appreciate;

1. A more normal instrument cluster.
2. Drive selector on the console vs. the instrument cluster.
3. Actual buttons to control the HVAC.
4. The thin/narrow armrests in the VW are something I really do not like. I would prefer the traditional setup in the Q4.
5. And, although VW generally does a good job with interior quality at any given price point, Audi is generally a leader in interior design and quality.

The bottom line for me is that I would prefer the Audi but what is the real price difference between the two? And, what standard features might be missing in the base model Audi (perhaps a heated steering wheel?) compared to the VW? A $5K price differential would be a no-brainer for me. A $10K differential?.... I don't know.

We're in the same boat here.
I'll be interested to see what the real price swings are.
What's the roof options in the different trims? (For better or worse we are all in with the big glass roof)
How much quieter inside is it really?
Ride comfort? He kept mentioning how it was "sportier" than the ID4 which leads me to believe it is stiffer sprung, of ever so slightly.

All that said, I don't think when they come out they will be that close ...

Still - sound insulation + upgraded stereo + faster infotainment CPU + buttons sure sounds enticing

 

[Fahrer]

We're in the same boat here.
I'll be interested to see what the real price swings are.
What's the roof options in the different trims? (For better or worse we are all in with the big glass roof)
How much quieter inside is it really?
Ride comfort? He kept mentioning how it was "sportier" than the ID4 which leads me to believe it is stiffer sprung, of ever so slightly.

All that said, I don't think when they come out they will be that close ...

Still - sound insulation + upgraded stereo + faster infotainment CPU + buttons sure sounds enticing

It is difficult to tell what the US bound models will and will not have. Th suspension adjustments are likely an option or in a more $$ package. So the car in the review may have had adjustable shock absorbers?

I am not a fan of sunroofs. Our Audi A6 has one. My Porsche 911 has one. I never used them. Although the traditional sunroofs are generally problem free, this is not the case with panoramic sunroofs. I generally purchase VW "S" models ( including my current 2019 VW Alltrack) because they do not have panoramic sunroofs. At least with the Audi Q5 one can delete the sunroof in the options. I know there should not be a leak issue with the sunroof in the ID.4 but they can still break from road debris and will reduce your driving range in the summer with the A/C working harder. For me a steel roof is preferred. If I remember correctly, the Q4 Thomas was driving did not have a sunroof. But, again, it was an EU model. So, we shall see.

 

[theboomr]

Drive selector in the console area is a negative in my opinion. Just wastes space.

 

[ChristophW]

Autogfuehl reviews are generally quite good. For Thomas has revealed a few improvements in the Q4 over the ID.4 that I appreciate;
1. A more normal instrument cluster.
2. Drive selector on the console vs. the instrument cluster.

I am with theboomr. The drive selector in the ID4 is well placed. There is zero reason to place electronic drive controls away from the steering wheel down in the middle, where back in the day mechanical gearboxes made it easy to place. That's an anachronism that needs to die.
Same for the instrument cluster. Fake analog gauges may look familiar but in the long run are not a good use of pixels.
Real physical buttons, however, are nice and appreciated.

But finally, there's the hideous fake grill on the Audi. What were they thinking?

 

[Andy at Ross-Tech.com]

I wonder if the shift paddles in the steering wheel allow varied levels of regen like they do in the e-tron quattro, and if so, is there a setting stronger than our one setting in the ID.4?

 

[SunWizard]

I wonder if the shift paddles in the steering wheel allow varied levels of regen like they do in the e-tron quattro, and if so, is there a setting stronger than our one setting in the ID.4?

Yes and Yes from press I have read so far. It has 3 levels up to 0.15g of regen with paddles, and higher if using 'dynamic mode' but they don't say how much higher. It also has a B mode, and they don't say how much the paddles can add to that. I like the feature of much more adjustments on my regen, it would be great on all the hills around me.
2022 Audi Q4 E-Tron preview: Electric quattro utility for the masses

 

[krusshall]

Drive selector in the console area is a negative in my opinion. Just wastes space.

As is the separate stalk for cruise control rather than on the wheel spoke like the ID.4.

 

[Tinman]

Need that turning radius for parking lots!

One of my absolute favorite features of the ID.4! The last car I had anywhere close was a rear engine/RWD 1968 Simca 1000.

Drive selector in the console area is a negative in my opinion. Just wastes space.

I got used to the stalk shifter more quickly than the white steering wheel. I really like it; it's so intuitive that I don't even have to look at it

 

[roscoetuff]

I keep wanting to like the Audi Q4 better... or seriously any OTHER ev better than my ID.4, but keep failing. Odd that I want to like something else better, right? But the premise of a 3-year lease to get INTO the ev market was simply to learn at a relatively lower cost and then take advantage of better choices later.

That said, Audi Q4 ought to be a compelling choice, right? Yes, I really do like the Audi interior a bit better (especially the instrument cluster and controls) though I like VW ID4's interior space utilization. Small differences count. Yet I am TOTALLY on with ChristophW's comment that the front Audi Q4 grill is a total fail. "What were they thinking?" Indeed. ID4's front grill gets the job done: Lights and VW logo. Metal for the rest. In three years, maybe Audi will figure out that a sublter front end will look better? We'll see. For now, I think the VW ID4 nails it: "We don't really need grills. Get over it. Figure out a new front end."

 

[YowVil]

Canadian Prices:
MY22 Q4 50 e-tron quattro
Komfort: from $59,950
Progressiv: from $65,350
Technik: from $68,350

MY22 Q4 Sportback 50 e-tron quattro
Progressive: from $67,600
Technik: from $70,600

For Comparison:
VW ID.4 AWD Pro
Base: $49,995
Statement Package: $57,995
The ID.4 qualifies for a $5K Federal discount