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Blindspot works perfectly on left mirror, but on right it is intermittent from second to second -even semi trucks don't cause it to light when it's not working. It can work fine for say 5 cars and then not for 10, all random. I'm thinking it's a loose electrical connection and that road vibration affects it. I let someone else drive my Pro and he noticed it in less than 10 minutes even though I hadn't mentioned any issues. Anyone else have this problem?
 

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Blindspot works perfectly on left mirror, but on right it is intermittent from second to second -even semi trucks don't cause it to light when it's not working. It can work fine for say 5 cars and then not for 10, all random. I'm thinking it's a loose electrical connection and that road vibration affects it. I let someone else drive my Pro and he noticed it in less than 10 minutes even though I hadn't mentioned any issues. Anyone else have this problem?
Twice since I have owned the ID4 all the safety monitors went out. But came back on when re-starting.
 

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Yes, my id.4 has freaked out completely. The left side reacts to oncoming traffic of about 100 m sometimes. Can be lit without a meeting. Sometimes it works as it should. Sometimes it lights up for several minutes. Has reported a fault to the service workshop, but has not yet received a response despite the fact that it was reported about 5 weeks ago. But the car is absolutely wonderful.
 

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Left side for me. Always works when it should, but it lights up very often without a good reason. Dealer found no errors and blamed it on over-sensitive sensor. Strange that it is working exactly as it should on the right side then...
 

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Left side for me. Always works when it should, but it lights up very often without a good reason. Dealer found no errors and blamed it on over-sensitive sensor. Strange that it is working exactly as it should on the right side then...
I do not think the VW dealer techs have had enough experience with the ID4 to make a proper diagnosis. In a year or so they might have a handle on it! Took mine in last week for the 30-60 checkup. Told them that twice since owning the ID4 that all the safety sensors and cruise went out, but came back when restarting car. They told me it was some module behind the bumper on the right rear and wanted to schedule a return visit telling me it would take a while because they would have to remove the bumper. I did not reschedule because I do not think they know what they are talking about. I have not had this issue again in about four weeks. Sometimes it seems like the ID4 is self healing!
 

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I was wrong, my Pro's blindspot warning works exactly as VW intended. It's all in the Owner's Manual U.S. edition under "Lane Change System (side Assist)" on page 156.
If I understand the explanation, it works like this: a car passing the ID.4 will cause the blindspot warning to light up. However, when the ID.4 passes another vehicle, the blindspot warning will only light up when the difference in speed between the two vehicles is less than 10 miles per hour. If the difference in speed is more than 9 MPH then blindspot warning won't light up. I just verified all this when I was driving on the freeway - yup the VW system works as intended. I think I see the reason why VW did this, but maybe they are just splitting hairs. If the blindspot light came on whenever the ID.4 passes another car then I think that too would be acceptable, or maybe better (unless if there is some technical reason).
So far nothing wrong with my Pro (2,423 miles on the clock) I'm delighted to say.
It was giving me strange messages at one point to the effect that my car had 10,385 miles on it, "Inspection service overdue". I even have photos of that mileage which appeared on the "Status" screen.
How could something like that even happen? Can these cars be hacked?
 

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I was wrong, my Pro's blindspot warning works exactly as VW intended. It's all in the Owner's Manual U.S. edition under "Lane Change System (side Assist)" on page 156.
If I understand the explanation, it works like this: a car passing the ID.4 will cause the blindspot warning to light up. However, when the ID.4 passes another vehicle, the blindspot warning will only light up when the difference in speed between the two vehicles is less than 10 miles per hour. If the difference in speed is more than 9 MPH then blindspot warning won't light up. I just verified all this when I was driving on the freeway - yup the VW system works as intended. I think I see the reason why VW did this, but maybe they are just splitting hairs. If the blindspot light came on whenever the ID.4 passes another car then I think that too would be acceptable, or maybe better (unless if there is some technical reason).
So far nothing wrong with my Pro (2,423 miles on the clock) I'm delighted to say.
It was giving me strange messages at one point to the effect that my car had 10,385 miles on it, "Inspection service overdue". I even have photos of that mileage which appeared on the "Status" screen.
How could something like that even happen? Can these cars be hacked?
This is how every car I've owned has worked. When passing a car, no blind spot light. If a car is overtaking you though, it lights up. My 2014 Hyundai Sonata was like this, and so was my 2019 Kia Niro EV.
 

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This is how every car I've owned has worked. When passing a car, no blind spot light. If a car is overtaking you though, it lights up. My 2014 Hyundai Sonata was like this, and so was my 2019 Kia Niro EV.
Your reference to your '19 Kia Niro EV is past tense, so was there something you didn't like about it? I almost bought one, but instead I waited until the ID.4 Pro came out. To be clear, on the ID.4 the blind spot does light up when you pass another vehicle provided the difference in speed between the 2 vehicles is less than 10 mph. The blind spot warning light is big on the ID.4, and I would say it works better and is more useful than the one on my '17 Bolt EV. However, the large, wide mirrors on the ID.4 are so good that blind spot is almost a redundant feature, unless if one has the mirrors adjusted incorrectly that is.
 

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Your reference to your '19 Kia Niro EV is past tense, so was there something you didn't like about it? I almost bought one, but instead I waited until the ID.4 Pro came out. To be clear, on the ID.4 the blind spot does light up when you pass another vehicle provided the difference in speed between the 2 vehicles is less than 10 mph. The blind spot warning light is big on the ID.4, and I would say it works better and is more useful than the one on my '17 Bolt EV. However, the large, wide mirrors on the ID.4 are so good that blind spot is almost a redundant feature, unless if one has the mirrors adjusted incorrectly that is.
It's a bit of a story.. So I had a Tesla Model 3 LR RWD. I sold it to purchase a house, then decided to try a different EV rather than buy another Tesla when I had money again. The Kia Niro EV was alright, but I didn't feel it was worth the price. The highway range wasn't great, over 65 MPH and the battery depleted pretty rapidly. Stops at EA felt like they took an eternity since the car only supported 77kw fast charging. I especially didn't like the handling, but I've felt that way about Hyundai and Kia cars in general. It's almost as if there is a disconnect between where you're turning the steering wheel and where the car actually goes. Not nearly enough precision. I had the top of the line model and it still didn't have full LED headlights, I had to replace those myself. Also, the first generation lane keep assist wasn't great, although I hear they've improved that on the newest model year.

I am from Florida where Kia does not sell the Niro EV, so I had to drive up to Atlanta and bring it back down. That ended up working out in my favor because I was able to sell it for exactly what I had in it since there weren't any others for sale within several hundred miles of me. I bought a used '17 Volt to hold me over during the ID.4 wait. I'll officially have the ID.4 before this month ends!
 

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It's a bit of a story.. So I had a Tesla Model 3 LR RWD. I sold it to purchase a house, then decided to try a different EV rather than buy another Tesla when I had money again. The Kia Niro EV was alright, but I didn't feel it was worth the price. The highway range wasn't great, over 65 MPH and the battery depleted pretty rapidly. Stops at EA felt like they took an eternity since the car only supported 77kw fast charging. I especially didn't like the handling, but I've felt that way about Hyundai and Kia cars in general. It's almost as if there is a disconnect between where you're turning the steering wheel and where the car actually goes. Not nearly enough precision. I had the top of the line model and it still didn't have full LED headlights, I had to replace those myself. Also, the first generation lane keep assist wasn't great, although I hear they've improved that on the newest model year.

I am from Florida where Kia does not sell the Niro EV, so I had to drive up to Atlanta and bring it back down. That ended up working out in my favor because I was able to sell it for exactly what I had in it since there weren't any others for sale within several hundred miles of me. I bought a used '17 Volt to hold me over during the ID.4 wait. I'll officially have the ID.4 before this month ends!
Interesting story. I almost bought a '17 Volt, but changed my mind and got the '17 Bolt which turned out to be a good car with no problems. However, the Bolt had a rather harsh ride, and as the battery was about to run out of warranty I replaced it with the ID.4 Pro. I didn't get the Volt as I thought the visibility was poor, especially when backing. I had a Kia Optima, forget the year (it was the first year with direct injection, maybe '11). I got rid of that car early as it had a long braking distance. The brakes, maybe the whole car, were bench-marked on the Accord - same rotor sizes and so forth, but the car didn't stop as quickly. Tires could have been a factor, not sure. Anyway, my experience with the Optima was enough to give me to give me pause when considering the Kia Niro EV. Also, I didn't like the fact that the Niro EV wasn't designed as a grounds up EV. My Pro will likely turn out to be the best car I've owned. Build quality is quite good, except for part of plastic tail light on the rear hatch which has a gap and doesn't lie down exactly flush with surrounding metal (maybe the light strip itself is not made properly). Anyway, I was impressed enough with Pro that I've acquired a bit of VW and Porsche stock.
 

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I have an appointment with the VW dealer on AP 20 to try to get mine fixed. It has been like this for about eight months. At the 10k service the dealer was not able to fix it. I am taking it to a different dealer this time.
 
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