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If we're talking about going back to March 2021 to do again (my 2 year anniversary on this site will be Monday!) yes, absolutely, my 1st Edition has been a favorite car despite all the software nonsense. The price, rebates, financing, and unlimited free charging were all great. I got a great price for my trade due to used car market conditions. None of the competing EVs at the time (Polestar, Volvo C40, Mach E) nor that that came out in the ensuing months (Ioniq 5, EV6) have attracted my attention enough that I'd switch.
If we're talking starting over today, I'd most likely jump back in with a '23. However, the prices have increased, the interest rates are higher, and the state rebates have decreased a bit. I don't think I'd get as good a deal on my trade. Basically the deal isn't as hot so I'd probably be a walk in a little bit cooler. I'd maybe hold off to see the Ioniq 6 and Volvo EV90, or give the GV60 a closer look. But those are subject to the same market influences and from that standpoint, the ID.4 seems like it's still the better value proposition (I'm no fan of the Tesla offerings otherwise they'd be up there).
If we're talking starting over today, I'd most likely jump back in with a '23. However, the prices have increased, the interest rates are higher, and the state rebates have decreased a bit. I don't think I'd get as good a deal on my trade. Basically the deal isn't as hot so I'd probably be a walk in a little bit cooler. I'd maybe hold off to see the Ioniq 6 and Volvo EV90, or give the GV60 a closer look. But those are subject to the same market influences and from that standpoint, the ID.4 seems like it's still the better value proposition (I'm no fan of the Tesla offerings otherwise they'd be up there).
I had to answer this question just recently. My '21 was bought back by VW. I happily bought a '23. THat was not a requirement of the buyback.
I'm a VW convert because of the ID.4. And in a world of high priced EVs, I still feel the ID.4 is one of the best values. But, coming from a Mini Countryman, my preference would have been an ID.3, maybe now the ID.2ALL. But, unless either one of those makes it stateside, I would go with an ID.4 again.
I have one and like it a lot, but I wish it has at least 375 mile range.
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Yes, I absolutely would. That said, a major factor in my decision was the dearth of EV options here in the midwest. I keep my cars a long, long time, so next time around there will be a lot more competition - VW better have its act together on the software side by then.
Yes, I would - but like others have said - buy it again when I did. I bought my Pro (rwd) in June of ‘21, to my mind it represented (and still does) a great value. Before incentives it was 39995(plus tax etc) for a large battery. I don’t think anyone else has offered a roomy car for a competitive price.
The poll doesn't have an answer option that matches my thoughts. I'm coming on two years of ownership. On one level, it is one of the most fun cars I've ever driven -- love the smooth acceleration, the quiet, and, overall, it has just been a good car. VW's apparent incompetence when it comes to software updates has been modestly annoying, but I'm getting along fine with the current version and it quirks. The one reason I'd have to think hard before buying another EV has nothing to do with the car and everything to do with the available charging network here in the midwest. My ID4 is basically a town car. The 3 or 4 road trips I've taken in it (from 500 miles round trip up to 1,200 miles) have been frustrating, and even left me stranded overnight once when a station was completely down. Even though the ID4 is a very comfortable car for highway driving, we now take our other car for any out of town trip. It is only for this reason that I'd have to think hard before saying I'd buy it again. So, it's not the fault of the car, but the fact that EVs in general adds hours to any long trip and the fact that the DC charging network has a long way to go before charging stations are as numerous and reliable as gas stations.
This has been known limitation in EVs and probably will be case for next few years. Yes you can road trip in EVs but it's not as comfortable as ICE. Except Tesla.
Probably not. I've struggled to come up with an analogy. The best I can think of is that the ID.4 is like a good pair of hiking boots that don't quite fit. The first mile is fine but by mile 10 the uncomfortable is becoming irritating. Without harping on the obvious (those things I was aware before purchase and won't rehash here), the things that still bug me are things like: the random profile resets that require reconfiguring the car, lack of useful EV specific feedback, random seat movement when entering (NOT while driving), etc. When I test drove and ordered the car in 2021, there were fewer options, and I was unaware of how frustrating some of these "quirks" would become. Funnily enough, I still have my comparison spreadsheet and there's a line for "OTA Updates" - clearly I'm an optimist. Many of the issues I have could be fixed by updates, but it's yet to happen.
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I agree with all of this + the random lighting error messages that seem to pop up and disappear like whac-a-mole - almost as often as my profile settings reset. It's so close to being a truly great car but the software is hot garbage. I can live with it until a more reliable brand irons out their EV kinks but I'm not happy at all about paying almost $50k for such a buggy vehicle.
You sort of get into the question of "If not VW, then what?". While VW is lacking in some aspects, they did go all in on EVs - there are no compliance cars or any of that nonsense.
My first EV was a Kona, and they only sold that in ZEV states - that was a nuisance. It wasn't just the sales either - for service on the power train, it needed to go back to a ZEV state (basic non-power train issues, a local dealer could handle). Fortunately we were never that far from Maryland, which was a ZEV state, but it frustrated me that Hyundai was only going 1/2-in on the things.
When the time comes to get something newer than the ID4, would I get another one? Sure - a new one would have a lot of the software issues sorted out, plus we would get potentially better charging, 360 cameras and whatnot. The big question mark for me at the moment is where are things going in terms of battery technology? That's a question that all manufacturers are facing, really, and while there are some things that sound promising in the lab, nothing so far is far enough along that anyone is announcing anything as of yet. But I wouldn't expect any major shifts for another couple of years.
My first EV was a Kona, and they only sold that in ZEV states - that was a nuisance. It wasn't just the sales either - for service on the power train, it needed to go back to a ZEV state (basic non-power train issues, a local dealer could handle). Fortunately we were never that far from Maryland, which was a ZEV state, but it frustrated me that Hyundai was only going 1/2-in on the things.
When the time comes to get something newer than the ID4, would I get another one? Sure - a new one would have a lot of the software issues sorted out, plus we would get potentially better charging, 360 cameras and whatnot. The big question mark for me at the moment is where are things going in terms of battery technology? That's a question that all manufacturers are facing, really, and while there are some things that sound promising in the lab, nothing so far is far enough along that anyone is announcing anything as of yet. But I wouldn't expect any major shifts for another couple of years.
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