Here's a spreadsheet with some aftermarket 18" wheels you can look at:
18" Wheels and load capacities for ID.4

Factory is Alcar 9383 or
1EA 601 027 A

 

yep, that's at the bottom of the spreadsheet, you just need to scroll down. Thanks for linking, SunWizard.

 

There’s already a thread on that…

https://www.vwidtalk.com/threads/vw-meb-steel-wheel.15021/

 

Fronts are Alcar 9383 8x18 ET45 5/112, rears are Alcar 9384 8,5x18 ET56 5/112
ID Buzz does not run square set up.
Source : I have two sets of 18" steel wheels for my Buzz, 1x set winter, 1x set studded

 

Is that short wheelbase or long wheelbase? Wondering if they’re different…

 

The 8.5 wide appears to be VW part# 1n3601027a, but I don't see the part# of the 8. Do you have the number for the front wheels?

Front:

Factory is Alcar 9383 or 1EA 601 027 A

 

Hi. But I need the 8" wheel (front) VW part number to make a set. Also, based on the photos in the thread referenced above, the wide wheel is the Alcar 9384.

 

But I need the 8" wheel (front) VW part number to make a set.

I just gave the front 8" part number again above 1EA 601 027 A and it is the VW part number the ALCAR 9383 that @La Fourmi mentions above too. One for sale in Germany:

Stahlfelge Alcar 9383 8x18 5/112 ET 45 VW ID 4 E2 E-SUV 1EA 601 027 A | eBay.de

ALCAR Stahlfelgen passend für. Alcar : 9383. Anhand Ihrer Daten prüfen wir, ob die Felgen wirklich passen. Größe : 8x18. ID.4 Typ E 2. ( wir berücksichtigen auch : Radlast, KW Bereich, Anhängekupplung vorhanden ?. ).

www.ebay.de

 

I may have found a source for new Alcar 9383/9384 wheels (in Italy). Fronts 95 and rears 120 Euro. Waiting on a quote for shipping.

 

That is the cost of the wheels??? Seems like it's around 1/5 as much as one would expect based on US pricing!

 

That's pretty great!

The factory Aero covers/hub caps fit the Alcar 9383 wheels (and probably the 9384 as well), VW part no. 11A601147EZKC

OEMVWShop.com, €44, will ship to US and Canada from Slovakia
Amazon.de, €53 (won't ship to US, don't know about Canada)
eBay, $72 each for set of 4 with free shipping from Lithuania

 

Interestingly, the front and rear aero covers for the buzz have different part numbers and are marked 'Front' or 'Rear'

 

Costs are in. A set of 4 wheels, shipped from Italy will be 995 Euro. Ouch. The shipping is more than the wheels. It might work better as a group buy and ship a container full.

 

@buzzboy since you're in Canada, you should be able to get the DTD 85201 wheels

https://www.vwidtalk.com/threads/dtd-steel-wheels-and-brake-caliper-clearance.13693/

I'm not sure where the best place is to buy them, but if you search for DTD 851201 you should be able to find them.

They definitely support the weight, and are the correct center bore, offset, and bolt pattern.

They are 7.5" wide instead of 8", so there was some confusion from DTD as to whether they clear the brake calipers or not, so you should definitely check fitment first.

 

@waldo22 Thanks for that. I had looked at the DTD wheels, but I was concerned about the 7.5" width given that the Buzz has a staggered fit. Unless I missed something, VWC is now spec'ing a 9 inch width for the Buzz rear axle.

 

I believe stock on the ID.4 is 8" front, 9" rear, at least on my '23 Pro S.

I currently have 8.5" wide on both front and rear, and it's fine. I never tried the 8" fronts on the rear for fitment before I sold them.

 

FWIW, I bit the bullet and bought the wheels from Italy. I think the outrageous shipping includes the shipping from the factory.


Now I'm ready for when My Buzz arrives during the winter.

 

Just a follow-up. I finally tried to install my 18" steelies with winter tires. The fronts do not fit over the Canadian Buzz First Edition disk brakes! Not sure what to do now.

 

Off topic, but I was able to take a Canadian spec demo for a test drive, this weekend. All good, except it might be too quick. Still don't like the Dune interior. I surprised to the sunroof is on/off with no ability to vary how opaque it is. Earliest availability for customer cars, mid-February.

 

Wow, that's a real bummer. I'm really sorry to hear that.

 

I guess you could always swap the rotors and calipers from an ID.4 onto your Buzz, but as a non-engineer I don't know what risks that could have.

I'm sure VW had a reason for putting larger brakes up front than on the ID.4.

 

I'm sure VW had a reason for putting larger brakes up front than on the ID.4.

Weight - the Buzz is a heavy vehicle - the brakes on the versions with 18" wheels are not at all confidence inspiring - especially coming down a mountain fully loaded.

 

The AWD models and LWB have bigger front brakes - if you are on 19" wheels as standard (and can't select 18" in the configurator) - this is the reason.

 

I'm pretty sure you don't get the short wheelbase 204bhp model in the US/Canada - I'm guessing you all have 19" wheels as standard - so you all have the big brakes.
This model in Europe has a maximum vehicle weight including loaded trailer of 4000kg (8800lbs) - the brakes are not confidence inspiring.
I've had one real emergency braking situation, only half loaded so about 2700kg (6000lbs) - on the flat at 130kmh (80mph) - someone pulled from the slip road to lane 3 without looking at 50kmh (30mph). I can confirm the smaller brakes work very well without locking up - but this is an extreme situation where you stamp on the brakes with all your might.
In my day to day driving - which is up and down the mountains - half loaded, there have been many times when heavy braking has been needed, and it is not 'comfortable' braking, you feel that excessive force is needed and there is little feedback.
My previous VW diesel van of about the same size, did not have this feeling, it was on 16" wheels with even smaller brakes (and narrower tyres).
The Buzz is heavy - certainly wouldn't be advising anyone to the smaller brakes on the LWB heavy model, or the AWD more powerful models.

 

In my day to day driving - which is up and down the mountains - half loaded, there have been many times when heavy braking has been needed, and it is not 'comfortable' braking, you feel that excessive force is needed and there is little feedback.

I'm not really familiar with the VW driving interface. On my Chevy Bolt there is an "L" mode, also called "one pedal driving", where you don't need to use the brake pedal, instead you ease off almost all the way off the accelerator pedal in order to start feeding in regenerative braking. And there's a paddle on the steering wheel that can increase the maximum amount of regen effect you get this way by maybe something like 50%. As a result, you never really need to touch the brake pedal except in surprise situations where you need to brake much quicker than normal.

Are you using the ID.BUZZ equivalent driving mode when you're going up and down the hills in the mountains? Because if the regenerative braking isn't enough to hold the car at a steady speed on downhill runs then it would mean that you're wasting energy by having to apply the hydraulic brakes. If that's what the ID.BUZZ requires then it would be very disappointing indeed. I live in mountainous British Columbia where it seems like half of my driving is downhill, so that would make a substantial difference to me.

 

@buzzboy I think you'll be able to sell these to an ID.4 owner. Plenty of folks appreciate the steel wheels, especially in Canada. I wonder if there are any 18" alloy wheels that will clear the front calipers.

 

I was lucky to find what I thought were the correct steelies.

 

Yeah, I think you did great. I'm really sorry to have lead you astray. If I were closer to you, I'd let you try my 18" Phaeton alloy wheels to see if they fit, but North Carolina is a bit of a hike from even the closest parts of the Great White North.

To be clear, when I said "I'm sure VW added larger brakes for a reason", I was basically saying that I wouldn't change them, certainly not to downsize. Obviously it's for the weight.