[Perry Rhodan]

I know we’re not going to see deliveries till September and I can’t wait to get mine in…

Spoke with my sales rep today and he mentioned orders aren’t locked in yet, that is they can still be modified. Once they are locked in we’re probably looking at 60-90 days before the first units arrive on the west coast.

Ordered the Silver Pro RWD with Statement Package and grey interior. Apparently I’m in the first 10 orders at the dealership so I’m hopeful I’ll be driving it sooner than later.

Anyone else placed an order in Canada? What did you get?

 

[shazow]

I talked to a few dealerships in Ontario and one in Quebec. Most of them said there's no way deliveries will come sooner than November. One dealership said they're expecting some demo cars in the summer, but actual order deliveries in the winter. One dealership said they're expecting their first 20 deliveries this summer (all Pro S of various colours they ordered before taking deposits), the rep said he's hoping for June/July but August/September at the latest. I called another dealership after that to see what they thought about that timeline and they said they're crazy because all the dealerships get the same information and there's no way shipments will come that soon.

🤷

No clue what to expect. Consensus seems to be towards November/December but hopefully the summer timeline happens. I got the impression that BC's timeline is a bit ahead of Ontario, but I haven't talked to dealerships there.

Curious to hear any other reports.

 

[Perry Rhodan]

I should have mentioned I’m in BC. it’s kind of weird here, some dealerships on the VW list aren’t mentioning the ID.4 at all on their site. At leas it was the case last time i

For sure Ontario will get deliveries shortly after QC and BC as they are one of the largest markets in the country.

On another subject, the id insider Facebook page has 2 reviews of it on Canadian soil! Must be those units recently photographed at the VW HO.

First Drive: 2021 Volkswagen ID.4

 

[YowVil]

Keep in mind that not all VW dealers will be selling the ID4 initially. VW.ca lists the ones that will. Make sure you speak to those ones.

 

[shazow]

Just got a call from the "we're getting ID4s early!" dealership and turns out it wasn't true pikachu-face. The original rep made it sound like they already ordered 20 cars and deposits get to choose from whatever arrives on a first-come basis. This rep was all "sooo we're making the orders now, what trim do you want?" etc. Sounds about right.

Also they suspect that AWD options will ship within a month of RWD options, and since AWD is coming closer to end of year I'm guessing September~November for RWD in Ontario which is about what the other dealerships said in the first place.

 

[Perry Rhodan]

Mine reach out early last week asking if I wanted to change my order to the AWD. Thought about it and decided to stick with the RWD.

 

[shazow]

I wonder if the RWD allocations are maxed out, so they're trying to offload some customers to a later AWD reservation to avoid missing out on customers who can't wait or don't want the upgrade.

Also sticking with RWD, just watched this review and the performance seems more than good enough for anything I'd care about and I'd probably take advantage of the extra range far more. Not to mention getting the car a month+ earlier.

 

[Perry Rhodan]

No idea, my rep mentioned a lot of peeps are waiting to test drive before placing a firm order. I’m supposed to be something like 8-9 out of maybe 15. It’s not like they want to make accurate orders known since it could impact their bottom line.

Did you get the statement package?

 

[shazow]

That's what I asked for, but who knows. They said they'll have better dates in June so I'll call back in a couple weeks to confirm,

 

[TheRock]

No idea, my rep mentioned a lot of peeps are waiting to test drive before placing a firm order. I’m supposed to be something like 8-9 out of maybe 15. It’s not like they want to make accurate orders known since it could impact their bottom line.

Did you get the statement package?

That's exactly what I'll do. I want to see the car 1st before deciding.

 

[knash]

I told my local Toronto dealer that I'll just wait until they have a demo. I hope they have a AWD demo as that's the one I'd be interested in. Other than the ID4 the Ioniq 5 or the EV6 look really appealing. Depending on the price point I might go for one of those. Ford kind of blew it with the Mach E as they made the base price over 50k which means it's not eligible for the Fed rebate. I suspect Nissan is going to do the same with the Ariya. And the Tesla's are poorly built and over priced. (As a side note, my in law who's living in LA told me the price of his Model Y and I quickly did a conversion to Canadian dollars and realized they jacked up the price 11k bucks on the Model Y on top of the converted price. There's no import duty as the car is made in the US. Sneaky Tesla.). Anyways, the ID4 AWD with statement is 58k or 53k with the rebate and the Model Y is 74k with a colour and the larger wheels so it's 21k more than the ID4.

 

[Perry Rhodan]

Ioniq 5 and EV6 look interesting, and while pricing has yet to be announced I would not be surprised if the entry models where priced above the $45k threshold. The base ioniq is listed at $41.5k with a 38.3kWh battery, twice the battery size and looks like an expensive looking interior could push the base to the $50k range.

As for Tesla... They have been the major beneficiary of the EV rebates here in Canada with around 1/3 of the $300M federal funds. I agree their build quality is substandard for the price range, and while it seem they employ a team of talented software developers they put too much emphasis on 0-100KM and unnecessary "features" imho. Electric vehicle are basically run by software, do you really want some Easter egg to potentially interfere with the vehicle while doing 120KM on the freeway...

Running for cover...

 

[SexyBeast]

I’m in BC and I’ve ordered an AWD. Sales guy said (two weeks ago) RWD will arrive in Sept, and RWD in Oct. But I’m not holding my breath. I anticipate more Nov/Dec.

The microchip shortage for car manufacturers will not be sorted out for the next couple of months, perhaps more. Microchip manufactures said (1st week of May) that they will have more capacity up and running in approx 100 days, which is around mid August. So by the time more chips are made, delivered to auto companies, put into vehicles, and those vehicles are shipped from Germany to Canada, then distributed in Canada... I think Nov/Dec is optimistically realistic. I hope I’m wrong and receive mine sooner! 🤞

 

[Perry Rhodan]

I'm hoping they are under promising and over delivering... A friend of mine got her e-golf delivered a month ahead of schedule, could very well be due to cancellations or low demand.

I agree the chip shortage could have an impact on deliveries and hopefully they already factored that in since if I remember correctly they initially were saying summer for deliveries then late summer which is September. And the AWD which was supposed to come later now has been moved to an earlier release date. Having said that, the dealerships seem to not have much info on what's going on. On day it was nope we're not ordering AWD and the next they are asking if you want to change your order.

I'm still on the fence for the AWD, it was my initial choice and then went with the RWD due to higher range, lower cost and unknown availability. Now should they have both when mine arrives I could reconsider.

 

[SexyBeast]

I'm still on the fence for the AWD, it was my initial choice and then went with the RWD due to higher range, lower cost and unknown availability. Now should they have both when mine arrives I could reconsider.

My dealership says RWD will arrive one month earlier, then AWD will arrive. In Canada, they are expecting more AWD orders. But for the vast majority of people, the RWD will be great. The low centre of gravity combined w/ RWD provides excellent stability in rain/snow/ice - as long as you have winter tires in the winter, the RWD will be excellent. Check out the 2nd half of this short video for a better explanation and visuals:

 

[Perry Rhodan]

Thanks! That video is great, very informative on how the RWD handles on the snow.

Now, on any day where we end up with enough snow in the lower mainland that you can’t make your trek without proper snow tire I would probably stay home even if I had the AWD.

 

[Perry Rhodan]

Another review from Canada. This one seems to highlight a lot of what has already been reported in this forum. They seems to be quite unimpressed with its acceleration which for many is unlikely to be an issue. Their biggest annoyance was with the piano black finishing which some peeps here have resolved with vinyl wrap.

One thing worth mentioning is this is a US vehicle being reviewed, not the Canadian model with heat pump and heated windshield. Probably means the vehicles spotted at the VW head office in Ontario late april are US models as well.

 

[Perry Rhodan]

Just got a txt from my sales rep, order is in and we’re 8th with a guaranteed vehicle in the first batch!! Going to be a long summer.

 

[SexyBeast]

Just got a txt from my sales rep, order is in and we’re 8th with a guaranteed vehicle in the first batch!! Going to be a long summer.

Long summer indeed!
Are you in the Lower Mainland, BC? I’ve been told Sept for RWD, Oct for AWD.

 

[Perry Rhodan]

Yes Lower Mainland. September is what we’ve been told as well.