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I placed an order for a base model AWD ID.4 back in April. It hasn't been locked in yet, or frozen as my salesman says. Over the past couple of months I've been told to expect it in Oct/Nov. I was informed today by the salesman that VW just announced a one month delay in ALL vehicles. I don't know if this is a chip shortage issue or their factory is being impacted by flooding....or just what's going on. Take your pick of calamity options these days.

I quipped to the salesman that maybe I'll receive a 2022 model instead. He responded that, "In over a decade of working at a VW dealership, you'll only know for certain when a car will arrive when it's on the lot." This VW dealership is on Vancouver Island in BC and so it's got a long way to go from that port in Halifax on the other side of North America.

On the plus side of being delayed is that they'll have some of the software issues worked out by then! :)
 

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I got some good news today about my ID.4 AWD. My dealer texted the following this morning:

"Your ID4 is frozen to changes July 28, 2021 the new eta to be completed production Sept 17,2021 next step. The vin number will be issued soon!!"

I've seen the delivery timeframe but I don't recall, so I need to check this forum about the time between production and delivery.
 

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Just had an update today from my dealer here on Vancouver Island. I asked about the production timeline and when the VIN number will be issued for my AWD. He told me that the vehicle is already in production and that I should get the VIN number in a few weeks. The target completion date is Sept. 17, 2021.
He also noted that there was a 3-week delay due to the chip shortage earlier and that there is no complete shut-down of the Zwickau plant for summer holidays.
 

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All right. Confirmed got a VIN and the car is on its way from Nova Scotia to Vancouver. I'd expect taking delivery by end of month.
Good news for you. Congrats!

My projected production completion date was Sept.30th. As of yesterday (Oct.1) my sales guy said their online info still showed Sept.30. Sigh. My sense is that they (VW Canada) are a little in the dark too.....at least at this level in the VW chain of command. He claims to check the ID status every morning, but there's been no change at all. The lack of info is a little frustrating. Given all the world events it's understandable though. This other thread alludes to another slow-down in production, which may be the cause of these latest woes.


I'm curious about your VIN being released only when it got to port in Canada though. My salesman told me that VINs are given out around the time production is complete in Germany. I wonder what are others being told this?
 

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Just got a text from my guy at the dealership. Here's what he learned this morning:

"I have a new update for you due to the micro chip shortage the factory is closed for a week. Suppose to get a big shipment of micro chips in a week I will let you know when it is back up and running."

So apparently there are now 2 confirmations of the factory being closed for the coming week.




 

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The Battery Life channel shared some thoughts on his first look at version 3.0 software and compared it to version 2.3 on his ID.3. Good to see that VW is paying attention to the feedback they're getting. There were a few more nuggets but these were the ones that stuck out for me.

2:15 - Battery care mode
2:50 - Auto lane changing (Drivers signals and the car changes lanes?)
3:50 - State of charge and outside temperature on steering wheel display
4:10 - When version 3.0 might roll out in Europe (March)
4:30 - Peak charging 135 kW with version 3.0
5:43 - Data connection for ID through your cell phone data plan (no need to pay VW for data!)


 

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Welp assuming cuz of the floods I'm assuming Vancouver folks can kiss 2021 delivery goodbye ... Anyone know if the rail network is intact at all? Prob gonna take some time to get back up and running
On the CBC Vancouver news last night they showed rail lines in the BC interior hanging in the air. No idea how bad the damage is, or where exactly the footage was shot, but my first thought was... "There goes the mid-December delivery date for my ID.4."
 

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Here's the timeline on my order and the latest update from my dealer on Vancouver Island. I hope this is helpful for others who've had a hard time getting information about their orders.
  • In March of 2021 I inquired about the ID 4 at 3 dealership locations; Vancouver, Victoria and Nanaimo. I decided to go with Habourview in Nanaimo as they are the closest to me and seemed to have the shortest waiting list.
  • I placed an order with them in mid-April, with no deposit.
  • For the next two months there was a lot of me pestering the sales guy about where I was on the list. Not much information was getting back to me about that.
  • In mid-June I was told that the vehicle I'd configured in April (Red AWD Pro) was now at the top of his list. I was asked to place a $2,500 deposit on the vehicle (refundable as of Jan.31/22).
  • My order was "locked" on July 1, 2021.
  • On August 4 I was told the vehicle was "frozen to changes" and that the production date would be Sept.17.
  • The production date slipped from Sept.17 to Oct. 13. (Chip shortages and factory shutdown for a week or so.)
  • It arrived in Halifax on the SIEM Plato on Nov. 8.
  • It left Halifax by rail with at least 6 other vehicles for the Nanaimo dealership on Nov.22. I assume there are other ID4s on that train as well, for other dealerships.
  • I was told that my 2021 model ID 4 will be available for me to drive away in mid-January 2022.
The devastating natural disaster and loss of human life here in BC has made me realize that a shiny new car is not the most important thing at the moment. It will get here when it does.
 

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Greetings ID 4 community. The day I've been waiting for finally arrived.....and just a few days before Christmas. :)

A lot has happened since our Kings Red AWD Pro ID 4 became the new family member. BTW my partner couldn't stomach another utterance of the words ID 4 (she has been hearing it a lot lately), so we now call our ID4, Ida. Seems to fit nicely. Here she is below at an Electrify Canada charging station. I was pretty happy with the whole buying experience. I'll pass along some info below about that and make a few more posts about what has happened this then. It's been a whirlwind.

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A few days before our new car arrived I was told by the sales manager that the trade-in value would be in the 17-18 grand range. As you can see from the screenshot below, the Kelly Bluebook website had the trade-in range set even lower than the initial offer from the dealer. I was hoping to get more of course and already had a private offer of 21 grand. After some negotiations we finally settled on a trade-in value of $19,500. Including the tax deduction from the trade-in, that worked out to almost 22 grand for us. I was happy enough with that, so we did the deal.

During the negotiations the sales manager went to his computer to look a few things up and was on the phone a bit too. I've no idea what he was referencing but he did not make the call without some outside reference. During this time the junior salesman let slip that they are desperate for used cars. (Doh!) I was generally aware of that already, both through this forum and EV news, so already knew I was in the trade-in driver's seat, so to speak. This post is my way of confirming that fact.

In the next day of two I'll be posting a few more things about what to make sure what you ask for from the dealer, as well as some misadventures with Charge Point, Electrify Canada and a real-life icing experience at a charging station in Nanaimo.



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As a follow-up to my previous post, this one deals with the ordering process in Canada and a wee bit more.

We drove from the Comox valley down to Nanaimo to pick up Ida and drove her back home late in the afternoon. Our drive back was harrowing and a very good test for our new AWD. The temperature was hovering just above the freezing mark with torrents of rain, super wet roads and night descending quickly. In short, this was the most sure-footed, comfortable driving I've ever had under these conditions.

Coincidentally we had to drive down to Victoria the next morning to pick up a newly adopted little dog, so Ida had another test..... on multiple levels. I won't get into battery range, efficiency and all those details other than to say the vehicle performed as well or better than expected. Our experience with a plugin hybrid had already taught us what to expect from an EV GOM under various severe conditions, so we weren't surprised that the range wasn't going to be the same as a leisurely summer drive.

The trip started out at -3 C, or about 27 F for our American friends, and the roads were icy. The winter tire package we got from the dealer (Continental Viking 7) proved to be excellent for both ice and rain too. One of the reasons I wanted an ID 4 is because the front wheel drive Volt would always spin the front tires on a wet surface. Way too much torque. The ID 4 is a dream in that department too.

It was on the trip home that all the fun began. We realized that we'd have to find a level 3 charger on the way home. I wanted to take advantage of the trip to test both the Charge Point and Electrify Canada charging systems. Charge Point was a bust. Even though I'm a member and had my phone set up to pay, we could not get a charge going. The screen kept "waiting for vehicle". We gave up after 15 minutes when I fellow at another charge station said he'd heard that ID4s were having trouble with Charge Point charging. I did not contact their help desk because we had enough juice to get to the Electrify Canada charge station in Nanaimo. That's where things got even more interesting.

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We had trouble getting charged up here and I had to call Electrify Canada. While I was on the phone, a young fellow in this Subaru parked beside us. My partner asked if it was an EV. He said it was and walked away. After getting off the phone I verified that it was an ICE vehicle and that he'd outright lied to my partner.....with a winning smile no less. I did not want to shrug this off and wondered what I could do. Obviously I did not want to resort to verbal violence of any kind. Instead, when he returned I told him I was going to send the picture with his license plate to the RCMP, Canadian Tire (parking lot where EC charger is located), Electrify Canada and the bylaw enforcement for the city of Nanaimo if he did not move the vehicle immediately. His false smile wavered and he reluctantly moved the car. In doing so, he revved the engine loudly and backfired a few times to prove his manhood, but he did move. My partner said she saw him waiting to park there again as we left. What a jerk. So ID forum.....what's the best approach here? I have not sent the photo to anyone yet, but I think I will next week to see what response I get. I know the ICE issue should be in another post on the forum but it's becoming a hot issue in Canada too, so that's why it's here

The final offering I have is that, in addition to setting up Car Net you need to get your Electrify Canada ID code from the dealer when you get your car too. Without that you are not entitled to the "Premium" free charging on their network. Also, this can only go on one account, so the login will need to be shared if someone else is driving the car and wants to charge free at EC.

That's all I've got. Merry Christmas everyone!
 

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How well did the heat pump operate in the cold BC weather?
I am very impressed with the heat pump in my ID. 4. I find the heating is excellent in all respects. Everything heats up and clears quickly from windshield to side windows to the side mirrors. Much faster than any ICE. The cabin space heats up fast too. No waiting for the engine to warm up first. In addition, the heat pump seems wicked efficient when sitting for a while in the cold. I'd much rather be stuck in a long sub-zero traffic jamb with an EV heat pump (and heated seat) than an ICE mobile. Assuming of course that you've got a decent SOC.
 

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I've got a question for Canadian ID 4 owners. A friend of mine is interested in buying either a Lightning or Silverado EV truck. He's pretty worried when he reads about the big markup (25-30% !) some US dealers are charging. Other than shipping and winterizing, I've never heard of Canadian dealers tacking on big markups like that.

So here's my direct question: Has anyone ever heard of a Canadian dealer wildly marking up a new (EV or otherwise) vehicle like we hear about in the States? Is there legislation to prevent this?
 
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