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That’s it. I’m done. pulled my reservation yesterday. Haven’t heard back from my dealer. Lol. Ordered a Model Y (with heat pump 🤡)

Where did you order? What city?

 

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Vancouver

Wow ok. Do you mind sharing which dealer? I'm also in Vancouver and want to see if this is a pattern at one particular dealer

 

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Interesting change down in the US, wonder if this means prices for these models will creep up there. I can only imagine if that were to happen it’s gonna make the Canadian market more complicated, unfortunately.

Treasury decides Model Y, Lyriq, ID.4, are SUVs after all, not sedans

Now it will use the consumer EPA standard and not CAFE to decide.

arstechnica.com

I don't think it could affect it any worse than it already is. There are no cars on the lot (in BC) like there are on American lots. It's still a long wait for any trim. If you want a top trim with everything, like me, your wait is extra extra long.

That said, if a car with the exact features I ordered comes in, I'll take it as long as it's the current 2023 year price or lower. Higher price or missing feature(s) and I'll tell dealer that I'm ok waiting for what I was promised. I've also put a deposit on another EV so there is that also. I'm not in a panic mode as I currently drive an excellent Hybrid that is great on fuel.

 

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edit: heat pump issue was the deal breaker for me.

I am in the same boat.

 

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well Polestar 2 just got a bunch of upgrades. Motors, more standard features, more power, more range. RWD now. Polestar 2 brings more power, performance and range

Also the polestar 4 is going to be available this yr.

Polestar 4: Tesla Model Y challenger hits the market this year

The Polestar 4 will be the company's fourth and potentially one of its best-selling models worldwide. Know all about the Tesla Model Y rival here.

topelectricsuv.com

"We will launch the car (Polestar 4), and I’m not talking about just going to present the design of the car. That will be the start of the launch that includes of course as well the industrial milestones that we will hit along the line in 2023."
Polestar CEO Thomas Ingenlath at the Polestar Q3 2022 results conference call on

This might be the sleeper hit if they don't overprice it. Tesla has put a lot of pressure on everybody now. Also the production Honda Prologue will be shown soon. Deliveries of the Honda will be Q1 2024.

I also got a call from a Nissan dealer about the Ariya. I didn't have a chance to get back to them so I'm just guessing that the Ariya test cars are just about to arrive.

Polestar 2 is cramped. Camry-sized car with a corolla-sized interior. The rear floor jump is massive. Two small adults up front (centre console is unforgivingly large) and two small children in back. Anything larger or more and forget it. I would have bought one if wasn't for lack of interior space. I did put a deposit on a Polestar 3 beavise something tells me that I'll be not getting the ID4 I actually reserved.

Honda Prologue - 2year wait in Canada. Minimum.

Ariya looks good, but I refuse to buy the armpit of japanese cars - Nissan, Mitsubishi

 

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Polestar 3 and 4 are different vehicles. Did Tesla increase here in Canada also?

 

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I think people cancelling reservations is a mistake. Especially in BC. What other EV are you going to get that's available RIGHT NOW that's not a Tesla? I am keeping my ID4 reservation for the top trim with every feature that I wanted initially. I will not settle for a feature-raped EV. If that means it's a 2024 or 2025 model then so be it. I did reserve a Polestar 3 albeit that's a different tier of quality and price point altogether.

That said, ID4 reservation holders should wait until presented with an actual car on the lot and then decide. Knee jerk reactions usually backfire, at least from experience, unless you need that $1000 back for various other reasons.

 

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Well, a C40... 😏

I guess. Nowhere near roomy enough for my family though. Plus the range is 320km on a good day on those. My boss has one.

Edit- he has an XC40

 

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Range is about the same, maybe slightly better for the C40 down to aerodynamics. My thinking was, that's still 320 or so km better than imaginary nonexistent range on a car that doesn't exist. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I just wasn't willing to keep waiting until whenever for predictions about supply chain disruptions improving that may never come true. Three years ago, "they" all said covid would be over in a few weeks.

(Also, I'm in a Volvo C30 right now, so for me it just seemed like a message from the universe that it became available.)

80% of 320 is what I'm thinking. Plus then add on winter conditions etc.....

It's a great city EV and gets top marks for build and software and looks imho

 

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What's the big fuss about no heat pump in the id4, yet people are ok with a different vehicle with a lower range with heat pump? I'm in Vancouver, it's not that cold here anyway. All the American id4s don't have the heat pump and many parts of the US are far colder than Vancouver.

By trade, I'm a certified HVAC technician. I'll go heat pump, you do you.

 

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Here in BC, we still have a provincial incentive. I can see that ending just like it did in other provinces. I can also see the feds tweaking the rebates - in their favour. Will EVs be cheaper by 9k in 2-4 years? (BC 4000$ + Fed 5000+)

 

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Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

HELLLZZZZZ no.......

 

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I’d like to think that the Equinox and Blazer are going to properly ramp up but I suspect that will turn into a shitshow as well. If they did they’d be interesting options.

I'd have to fully agree here. Its a great opportunity for GM, but I see a fumble as well.

 

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The 2023 Outlander has gotten some great reviews.
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in Canada because of our awful charging network, I’d say PHEVs are a very smart move. No pain in the ass 45-1hr charging sessions on longer trips.

This is one way to look at it, yes.

 

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Test drive 'til the wheels fall off. That's about all we can do while we wait for whatever we ordered.

 

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Oh so you've been test driving the Toyota bZ4X?

A parent at my kid's school has one. Was talking to him and he said he loves his bz4x so far of 3 mths ownership.

 

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I really wanted to test drive the solterra since I'm partial to subarus, but yeah...delivery times as they are and its range makes it a tough sell for us. Maybe when it hits its 2nd gen.

Subaru dealer in North (Vancouver) Shore automall has 3 on their lot. All were cancelations. This is as of 230pm Pacific time. Not sure of markups or details as I was driving through and popped in; only that "they are for sale"

 

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They didn't announce official fuel consumption

3.3L. Its on Mazda.ca

 

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Quite awhile ago I called a GM dealer to find out about Blazer and Equinox BEV delivery times and they told me 2 yrs.... seriously? What's the point?

GM announced these vehicles in FOMO. Like VW, the bulk of these will be for US market and Canadians, once again, are going to take it up the tail pipe.

 

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Folks any idea to track a car with VIN ? Like whether it crossed Canada customs or not etc. trying to track the VIN my dealer gave. According to him car manufactured in November but no updates after that.

I, too, wondered about this. I don't think there is a way to track without that browser extension our American pals use. And it most likely not for Canadian orders.