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Perry Rhodan

Discussion Starter · May 21, 2021

I know we’re not going to see deliveries till September and I can’t wait to get mine in…

Spoke with my sales rep today and he mentioned orders aren’t locked in yet, that is they can still be modified. Once they are locked in we’re probably looking at 60-90 days before the first units arrive on the west coast.

Ordered the Silver Pro RWD with Statement Package and grey interior. Apparently I’m in the first 10 orders at the dealership so I’m hopeful I’ll be driving it sooner than later.

Anyone else placed an order in Canada? What did you get?

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BigMac

· #3,181 · 2 mo ago

knash said:
I suspect the US dealers already have a lot of ID4s just sitting on their lots. Why take orders? It seems like there's a lot of people not following through with their purchases. I hope you guys aren't taking a loan or lease from VW at these insane rates. I wonder how many people in Canada are just cancelling now that the heat pump is history.

Just a couple of comments on your post. I ran a comparison of a $50,000 car loan at 4% versus 8% over 60 months. Monthly payments are $93 higher at 8% (which might be totally offset by gas savings for someone switching from an ICE vehicle). The real kicker is total interest cost over 60 months; $5600 more at 8%.

Regarding heat pumps, I have mixed feelings based on our location (BC Interior), patterns of usage and experience with our 2018 Model 3 (no heat pump). Loss of range in cold weather can be a real issue and may require extra charging stops on longer trips. But compared to 2018, charger availability is so much better now and will only improve over time. (We tend to make far fewer out-of-town trips in the winter versus the summer.) Our ID.4 came with a heat pump which I prefer but might have purchased without a heat pump. Waiting for a VW with a heat pump (or waiting for another brand) introduced a lot of other uncertainty into the financial picture for us; would out trade-in value fall, would gov't rebates get reduced, would Cdn pricing increase to match US prices, etc. We're happy with our decision to buy 2 months ago.

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BigMac

· #3,182 · 2 mo ago

GriefHammer said:
I think it's best people don't buy an ID4 right now (unless you absolutely need THAT car) for a few reasons.

1. Price - I have a funny feeling VW will realize they've become greedy little pigs
2. Styling - the new 2024 model year is to have buttons and a minor facelift
3. Range - currently not very good and I suspect 2024 or 2025 will improve
4. VW communication to it's customers is one of the biggest fumbles I've seen, and waiting customer are fed up - message needs to be sent

Personally, I haven't canceled my order, but I am seriously considering it. I have already told my dealer that I will wait for a MY24 to get all the features I originally ordered. Of any of those features are missing in MY24, I'm sticking with Polestar3. Yes, more $, but I get what I want

We've only driven our ID.4 about 2000 km since getting it at the end of January but range is a positive from what I've seen so far. I'm seeing range figures (pretty unscientific) suggesting total theoretical range of 450-470 km, considerably above the 410 that VW claims. For example a recent run of 126km on secondary highway, generally 70-100km/hr, took the battery charge down from 80% to 53%. Temp around 10C and no major elevation changes. Indicates theoretical range of over 460 km. (A bit less than our Model 3 LR RWD but not much less.) Most highways in our area have speed limits of 80-100 km/hr so that helps with range.

GriefHammer

· #3,183 · 2 mo ago

BigMac said:
We've only driven our ID.4 about 2000 km since getting it at the end of January but range is a positive from what I've seen so far. I'm seeing range figures (pretty unscientific) suggesting total theoretical range of 450-470 km, considerably above the 410 that VW claims. For example a recent run of 126km on secondary highway, generally 70-100km/hr, took the battery charge down from 80% to 53%. Temp around 10C and no major elevation changes. Indicates theoretical range of over 460 km. (A bit less than our Model 3 LR RWD but not much less.) Most highways in our area have speed limits of 80-100 km/hr so that helps with range.

All thanks partly to your heat pump.

jimmyche

· #3,184 · 2 mo ago

BigMac said:
Just a couple of comments on your post. I ran a comparison of a $50,000 car loan at 4% versus 8% over 60 months. Monthly payments are $93 higher at 8% (which might be totally offset by gas savings for someone switching from an ICE vehicle). The real kicker is total interest cost over 60 months; $5600 more at 8%.

Regarding heat pumps, I have mixed feelings based on our location (BC Interior), patterns of usage and experience with our 2018 Model 3 (no heat pump). Loss of range in cold weather can be a real issue and may require extra charging stops on longer trips. But compared to 2018, charger availability is so much better now and will only improve over time. (We tend to make far fewer out-of-town trips in the winter versus the summer.) Our ID.4 came with a heat pump which I prefer but might have purchased without a heat pump. Waiting for a VW with a heat pump (or waiting for another brand) introduced a lot of other uncertainty into the financial picture for us; would out trade-in value fall, would gov't rebates get reduced, would Cdn pricing increase to match US prices, etc. We're happy with our decision to buy 2 months ago.

Ths is exactly why I obt for variable interest rate with my bank instead.
It would be ridiculous to pay VW 8% interest rate for the full term.

Yours is a AWD I assumed. With 19 or 20" wheel?

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BigMac

· #3,185 · 2 mo ago

GriefHammer said:
All thanks partly to your heat pump.

Fair comment but at 10C and sunny, not sure that a heat pump would make much difference. With lots of glass area, including glass roof, we were running the fan to keep temp down (but were not running A/C). The car may have been adding some heat to the cabin. Next time I'll try to experiment a bit in those conditions with HVAC off to see if cabin is too cool or too hot.

BigMac

· #3,186 · 2 mo ago

jimmyche said:
Ths is exactly why I obt for variable interest rate with my bank instead.
It would be ridiculous to pay VW 8% interest rate for the full term.

Yours is a AWD I assumed. With 19 or 20" wheel?

Ours is the Pro AWD. The unit that we bought had the heat pump but also had the 20 wheels and glass roof that we didn't really want to pay for (but waiting didn't seem like a good option either). The wheels and roof added $2250 to price (but we avoided the pending $2500 price increase as things have turned out).

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jimmyche

· #3,187 · 2 mo ago

BigMac said:
Ours is the Pro AWD. The unit that we bought had the heat pump but also had the 20 wheels and glass roof that we didn't really want to pay for (but waiting didn't seem like a good option either). The wheels and roof added $2250 to price (but we avoided the pending $2500 price increase as things have turned out).

My pending ID.4 pretty much has exactly the same spec as yours. I also don't want the 20' wheel but I can either pay old price and get the 20' wheel or wait for one with 19" wheel and pay $1500 more. Easy decision there.
Picking up in two days, Good to hear that you sometimes get more than 410km out of the juice pack.

BigMac

· #3,188 · 2 mo ago

jimmyche said:
My pending ID.4 pretty much has exactly the same spec as yours. I also don't want the 20' wheel but I can either pay old price and get the 20' wheel or wait for one with 19" wheel and pay $1500 more. Easy decision there.
Picking up in two days, Good to hear that you sometimes get more than 410km out of the juice pack.

Went back to your earlier post with the photo; same Pure Grey colour as ours. That was my preferred colour and would probably given up a heat pump before accepting a different colour.

jimmyche

· #3,189 · 2 mo ago (Edited)

BigMac said:
Went back to your earlier post with the photo; same Pure Grey colour as ours. That was my preferred colour and would probably given up a heat pump before accepting a different colour.

well, I actually wanted white with white seats but it make no sense to pay $3000 to wait for the white. ($2500 (increase) +$500 (white)). Now that with more information, I probably will not get the folding mirror and the area view had I wait for the white anyway. The heat pump is certainly be a bonus.

Do you find the pure grey easy enough to take care of?

BigMac

· #3,190 · 2 mo ago

jimmyche said:
well, I actually wanted white with white seats but it make no sense to pay $3000 to wait for the white. ($2500 (increase) +$500 (white)). Now that with more information, I probably will not get the folding mirror and the area view had I wait for the white anyway. The heat pump has will certainly be a bonus.

Do you find the pure grey easy enough to take care of?

Not too sure about care of the exterior. Have done 2-3 washes since taking delivery but still a lot of winter grime on the roads. It doesn't stay clean for long but it is not as noticeable on the grey (for sure compared to our white Model 3). The VW mats that came with it are pretty basic so I might check out after-market products.

jimmyche

· #3,191 · 2 mo ago

BigMac said:
Not too sure about care of the exterior. Have done 2-3 washes since taking delivery but still a lot of winter grime on the roads. It doesn't stay clean for long but it is not as noticeable on the grey (for sure compared to our white Model 3). The VW mats that came with it are pretty basic so I might check out after-market products.

Already have the below mat on stanby since 2 months ago, plus other goodies on the way. (key case, side skirt silver trim, door sill etc....)
Nice when your wife shops at the Chinese site.

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GriefHammer

· #3,192 · 2 mo ago

jimmyche said:
Already have the below mat on stanby since 2 months ago, plus other goodies on the way. (key case, side skirt silver trim, door sill etc....)
Nice when your wife shops at the Chinese site.
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Those mats......... On a scale of 1-10, to me, those are a no. Sorry Jimmy 😉

BigMac

· #3,193 · 2 mo ago (Edited)

jimmyche said:
Already have the below mat on stanby since 2 months ago, plus other goodies on the way. (key case, side skirt silver trim, door sill etc....)
Nice when your wife shops at the Chinese site.
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That center console sure looks a lot different than ours. Must be the China version of the ID.4

Edit: ignore this post; probably the picture is of some other make of vehicle.

jimmyche

· #3,194 · 2 mo ago

GriefHammer said:
Those mats......... On a scale of 1-10, to me, those are a no. Sorry Jimmy 😉

no problem, it’s a matter of personal taste. I prefer these over the 3D one they sell here. Plus mine only cost about $70 arrived at Vancouver.

BigMac said:
That center console sure looks a lot different than ours. Must be the China version of the ID.4

that’s just a sample photo with whatever vehicle. They custom made them in China for the ID.4. I will provide actual photo over the weekend.

serious.sam.4all

· #3,195 · 2 mo ago (Edited)

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GriefHammer said:
All thanks partly to your heat pump.

BigMac said:
Fair comment but at 10C and sunny, not sure that a heat pump would make much difference. With lots of glass area, including glass roof, we were running the fan to keep temp down (but were not running A/C). The car may have been adding some heat to the cabin. Next time I'll try to experiment a bit in those conditions with HVAC off to see if cabin is too cool or too hot.

Correct, with the glass roof and 10'C you dont need heat ON at all. So Heat pump or not will not make any difference.
Last couple of warmer days I am also getting some amazing efficiency. One day it was just 3'C and Hardly any Heat was needed as it was sunny and calm winds. (Turned off heat once car warmed up)

First pic is one way in 3'C second pic is total of 2 days (4 trips). 70% highway, 30% city, waiting in car for 10 min each day (without heat but time is added). By the way Battery temperature matters a lot than outside temperature for efficiency, I have noticed significant difference depending on Battery temperature. In this case battery temperature was around 9'C

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Even if you use Heat, Heat pump or Heater will not stay on for long, as this car is pretty well insulated. Best case scenario for heat pump is from 2 to -5'C weather. Anything more or less will not save anything significant and If you pre-heat your car, you can completely avoid HP even in this temperature range.

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ID4never

· #3,196 · 2 mo ago

16 - 17 kWh/100km is quite decent for the ID4! Thanks for the info.

RandomGood

· #3,197 · 2 mo ago

serious.sam.4all said:
Correct, with the glass roof and 10'C you dont need heat ON at all. So Heat pump or not will not make any difference.
Last couple of warmer days I am also getting some amazing efficiency. One day it was just 3'C and Hardly any Heat was needed as it was sunny and calm winds. (Turned off heat once car warmed up)

First pic is one way in 3'C second pic is total of 2 days (4 trips). 70% highway, 30% city, waiting in car for 10 min each day (without heat but time is added). By the way Battery temperature matters a lot than outside temperature for efficiency, I have noticed significant difference depending on Battery temperature. In this case battery temperature was around 9'C
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Even if you use Heat, Heat pump or Heater will not stay on for long, as this car is pretty well insulated. Best case scenario for heat pump is from 2 to -5'C weather. Anything more or less will not save anything significant and If you pre-heat your car, you can completely avoid HP even in this temperature range.

Thanks for the statistics, but it appears both screen grabs are for trips with speeds below 50km/h, would love to see some with average speeds in the 90 to 100 km/h range.

jimmyche

· #3,198 · 2 mo ago

Just got my car this evening. ( pic to follow)
Here’s my first question after ownership. Is there suppose to be a vehicle tool kit for Canadian ID.4? I got the charger. Floor mat and a tire temp repair kit but couldn’t find the vehicle tool kit mentioned on the manual.

Not sure how accurate is this manual as it also talks about checking and filling “engine” coolant.

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MrID4

· #3,199 · 2 mo ago

The tool kit is part of the tire repair kit. is the compressor.

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Audiwagen

· #3,200 · 2 mo ago

jimmyche said:
Just got my car this evening. ( pic to follow)
Here’s my first question after ownership. Is there suppose to be a vehicle tool kit for Canadian ID.4? I got the charger. Floor mat and a tire temp repair kit but couldn’t find the vehicle tool kit mentioned on the manual.

Not sure how accurate is this manual as it also talks about checking and filling “engine” coolant.

If you lift your rear cargo mat up, there should be a foam tray at the bottom. In the foam tray, there should be at least a tow hook and wheel bolt cover removal tool. I'll take a picture when I get a chance.

Yea there's coolant. For the batteries. It's under the hood.

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