Charging At a Tesla Charger
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L2 Destination chargers only, not superchargers. See:
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TeslaTap Mini experience?
Has anyone tried the TeslaTap Mini, Tesla to J-1772 Adapter-80 AMP for the Id.4?
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Still in the works for using Tesla Super Charger but it's coming.
First Tesla Superchargers for other automakers begin service, higher fees and membership offered
Tesla is launching a pilot program for non-Tesla electric vehicles to use its Supercharger network for the first time. The...
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I got the 80 amp because sometime in the future I’ll have a car that will need it.
OP is likely talking about Superchargers. This just opened up in the Netherlands, but the Tesla superchargers there use CCS.
The North America CCS adapter is not out yet, but the app is showing some code snippets that refer to us being able to use Superchargers soon. We'll need both app support and the CCS adapter for this to work in NA.
The North America CCS adapter is not out yet, but the app is showing some code snippets that refer to us being able to use Superchargers soon. We'll need both app support and the CCS adapter for this to work in NA.
I saw that in the news. Did you see that Hertz ordered 100,000 Teslas?
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Yes, the SuperCharger network pilot is in the NL: Tesla is letting non-Tesla EVs use its Supercharger network for the first time
This is easier in EU as they Tesla network there leverages CCS standard. If/when it comes to the US Tesla will likely equip the US network with a CCS adapter.
For Level 2 charging, I’m using the 60amp TeslaTap mini as I have 48amp wall connector in my home and at my office. It’s an expensive adapter but cheaper than replacing my Wall Connector!
This is easier in EU as they Tesla network there leverages CCS standard. If/when it comes to the US Tesla will likely equip the US network with a CCS adapter.
For Level 2 charging, I’m using the 60amp TeslaTap mini as I have 48amp wall connector in my home and at my office. It’s an expensive adapter but cheaper than replacing my Wall Connector!
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Yes, CCS2 in EU.
However, all EVs in EU are CCS2 vs. where we are in the US of having Tesla standard and CCS1 , harder to pilot without more adapters.
Let’s hope one day we can get to one single standard.
I've argued elsewhere it would be much easier if US cars just switched to the Tesla connector (a million Teslas and 10K stations in the US) there but folks weren't happy about it. lol
Nothing will happen without billions of US subsidies.
CCS2 will continued to be used in Europe because of the three phase power I heard.
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That's like saying Android phones should switch to the Apple Lightning connector...
In Europe the owners of early Teslas (with the proprietary socket) must use an adapter or pay to have their socket swaped out...
In Europe it makes sense to unify... but the situation is different in the US. There are barely any "Android phones" (non-Teslas) and a million Teslas and 10K supercharger stalls. It's like telling Apple users they all have to ditch their Lightning connectors for the RS-232 serial port (that's how unfriendly I see the CCS1 connector being).
Tesla doesn't need non-Tesla users so there is no reason to change. Everything works great at the moment.
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As a Tesla owner first I can totally agree with the RS-232 serial port comment. My first EA charge using the CCS connector felt like I was fighting a King Cobra to get it connected. Removing it from the ID.4 was even more difficult. I was convinced I was stuck at the EA charger with the CCS permanently connected to me.
Hopefully its just something you have to get used to, however, Tesla definitely has a leg up on DC charging hardware integration with the vehicles.
Except that the charge port door is on the wrong side for many cars. That's not an easy thing to retrofit.
Correct but even if Superchargers opened up for... say ID.4s... it will have the above problems. Wrong port side. Who changes? Supercharger? or VW?
To me... there are only maybe 150-200K non-Telsas in the US capable of fast charging over 50 kW and that number is dwarfed by the number of Telsas (close to a million - 200K+ produced each quarter).
Again, there is nothing wrong with the Tesla charging network. It doesn't need to change. It won't change. If others want access to it... then should make changes to their vehicles.
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This would be easy if Elon would allow royalty free use of the connector, including future upgrades. He originally want mfg to chip in to build out/fund the Super Charger Network - not sure what the offer was but seems the mfg did not take his offer...
if the deal was fair, in that the funding is proportional to the # of BEVs, I can see some takers, esp smaller players. Perhaps he wants too much in contribution (more than their fair share).
It isn't just VW. Lots of cars have charge ports in places that could be an issue.
In the US, they will need to supply a CCS adapter - they could add a 6 foot cable to it, which would solve that problem, but the cable wouldn't have cooling.
In the US, they will need to supply a CCS adapter - they could add a 6 foot cable to it, which would solve that problem, but the cable wouldn't have cooling.
Tesla's app has hidden code that states if a non-Tesla EV isn't supported. Some vehicles with incompatible charge port placement might just be blacklisted anyway, so we wouldn't have to worry about that. Maybe the ID.4 makes the cut, maybe it doesn't.
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I don't understand this "wrong side" point at all.
Just park the car the other way round. How difficult is that?
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