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Comparing the stock tires on Pro versus FE

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SunWizard

Discussion Starter · Apr 17, 2021 (Edited)

Here are the 2 brands reported for stock tires to compare ratings. They are both the same very high rating on UTQG: 500AA: this means the best traction, temperature rating you can get - AA. They are not the highest treadwear you can get, but better than average. Also, you cannot compare the treadwear (500) between brands reliably since tire manufacturers extrapolate their raw wear data when they are assigning Treadwear Grades, and their grades can to some extent reflect how conservative or optimistic their marketing department is.
FE: Bridgestone Alenza Sport AS
Pro: Hankook Kinergy AS EV

I found an interesting article about the Hankook being specially designed for EVs using Aramid belts 5x stronger than steel, and conifer and vegetable resin for better traction:
Hankook Kinergy AS EV Tires Help Electric Cars be Better

Here is a link to compare all the 19" tires that fit on Tirerack.
Here are all the 20" tires that fit at tirerack

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hilld

· #41 · Aug 3, 2021

Just one such winter tire/wheel possibility (not aero in this case, but light weight)

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VW TECHNICIAN

· #42 · Aug 3, 2021

hilld said:
Just one such winter tire/wheel possibility (not aero in this case, but light weight)

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Just make sure they are rated for SAV EV use...
There will be offering better than this...
Steel wheels are still best for winter use...unless it is something you will not consider.
And getting hands on set from junk yards would be best money spent.

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hilld

· #43 · Aug 3, 2021

I have not had any luck finding steelies in 18" or 19"'s in the past when looking for winter wheels for our X1, our Golf R or other cars. Always ended up buying some sort of black / grey wheel to limit the cleaning. We have had good luck with the BBS SR wheels (stands for Snow and Rain), it is a cast wheel, but not very light weight. The wheels that Tirerack is selling are meant to fit the ID.4. Also good luck finding ID.4 wheels in a junk yard.......yet.

Maybe after 1 winter with people driving a rear wheel drive car that are used to front or four wheel drive cars, we will have a supply of used wheels.

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agzand

· #44 · Aug 3, 2021

Sometimes with German cars the factory winter setup is the best deal, better even than TireRack. For BMW i3 that is the case. If I were in a cold state I would wait for the winter set from VW before buying any random set.

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Huey52

· #45 · Aug 3, 2021

Dealership tires in general and dedicated Winter wheel sets have indeed improved their cost competitiveness in the past half dozen years or so in the USA.

agzand said:
Sometimes with German cars the factory winter setup is the best deal, better even than TireRack. For BMW i3 that is the case. If I were in a cold state I would wait for the winter set from VW before buying any random set.

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hilld

· #46 · Aug 3, 2021

Huey52 said:
Dealership tires in general and dedicated Winter wheel sets have indeed improved their cost competitiveness in the past half dozen years or so in the USA.

I have a call into the dealer parts department to see what they can do on a winter wheel / tire setup, but first they have to fix my car. Not pulling the trigger quite yet.

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SunWizard

Discussion Starter · #47 · Aug 3, 2021

VW TECHNICIAN said:
Do you really think VW engineering is bunch of dummies.

No, I think its the guys at Edmunds doing that test who made that mistake. Nothing to do with VW. They don't give enough info to tell what they used to calculate, I was just pointing out how their numbers don't add up and their testing methods are not very good.

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hilld

· #48 · Aug 5, 2021

hilld said:
I have a call into the dealer parts department to see what they can do on a winter wheel / tire setup, but first they have to fix my car. Not pulling the trigger quite yet.

Not to reply or quote myself but rather to keep this reply with the original post.
Went to the dealer and got a quote on a winter setup. With discount and sales tax it is $2323 for a 19” staggered setup. Wheels are NON aero just standard silver wheels. So I can save about $900 by going with my original choice. Won’t be a hard choice.

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BlueDH

· #49 · Dec 4, 2021

Discount Tire To Acquire Tire Rack And Merge Operations, Creating Leading Omnichannel Tire Buying Experience

/PRNewswire/ -- Discount Tire, a leading independent retailer of tires and wheels, is acquiring Tire Rack, a leading independent tire tester and...

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Interesting 🤔.

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Huey52

· #50 · Dec 4, 2021

Note that in parts of CA Discount Tire is called America's Tire. 🤷‍♂️

Good thing the merged company will allow Tire Rack to maintain their name.

BlueDH said:
Discount Tire To Acquire Tire Rack And Merge Operations, Creating Leading Omnichannel Tire Buying Experience

/PRNewswire/ -- Discount Tire, a leading independent retailer of tires and wheels, is acquiring Tire Rack, a leading independent tire tester and...

www.prnewswire.com

Interesting 🤔.

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Mark Magiera

· #51 · Dec 4, 2021

VW TECHNICIAN said:
Just make sure they are rated for SAV EV use...
There will be offering better than this...
Steel wheels are still best for winter use...unless it is something you will not consider.
And getting hands on set from junk yards would be best money spent.

Yes, but which steel wheels from the bone yard? I've yet to see a "steel" offering in a 19" or 20." Everything I've seen is alloy.

I'd love to get some steel "Rabbit Rims" for my ID4 to put snow boots on my ID4 with some Nokian R3's or the WR G4's. Everything I've seen for the US market keeps it aluminum. Which long term is not a good solution. When I was configuring my ID4 for a Germany purchase, they were offering a Winter Wheel package with a rim in steel. That rim is all but invisible now.

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