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I've gathered that there is an adjustment for "Suspension" under the Custom drive mode settings, anybody know what this does considering the USA cars don't have adjustable DCC suspension?
 

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I received a survey call from VWoA and I asked the surveyor this very question. She said she would get back to me. She did, to get further information ... and then said she would need to escalate this to a product specialist to get back to me. I'm still awaiting that call. :)
 

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Got it, will be good to know. I have a feeling this is an "oopsie" they would like to quietly do away with in the next software update.
 

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Got it, will be good to know. I have a feeling this is an "oopsie" they would like to quietly do away with in the next software update.
This is in the new Golfs without DCC as well. It's not a mistake. However, I don't know what it does either. Perhaps it adjusts something in the suspension electronics?
 

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Interesting, I can't really imagine what else would be "adjustable" in a suspension system. Maybe 'DCC' is now the system that allows a range of adjustment like in the Mk8 Golf, and these cars do have adjustable shocks as well but only in a 2-position format?

Is anyone feeling a difference between comfort and sport modes in terms of stiffness?
 

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There are no wires sticking out of the shocks. I even popped the semi-spherical cap off one of the rear shocks and there's nothing there, just a bolt.
 

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It probably just stiffens the steering. I haven't noticed a measurable difference, yet.
I don't have an ID4 yet, but I believe there is a separate adjustment for steering in the Custom mode.

I think they are Suspension, Steering, Drivetrain, ACC, Light Assist, & Climate Control.
 

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You might be right. I'll look in a few hours. The two settings could be what made me look into whether we had DCC.
 

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I just received an email from VW Customer CARE:

Thank you for speaking with me the other day. As promised, I reviewed your ID.4 suspension inquiry and confirmed, setting the suspension to Sport in the ID.4 will stiffen the suspension. This will allow a more direct feeling of connection to the road and a sportier ride overall.
I replied, asking how exactly this was accomplished with steel springs and non-adjustable shocks.
 

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On my far-too-often-mentioned current Accord, when going from Econ to Normal to Sport, the throttle response becomes much more aggressive. Not just faster tip-in, but also the car will be much more aggressive about response to what my foot does on the pedal. In Econ, if I soften the pressure on the accelerator, I get a smooth transition to coasting even if I soften that pressure abruptly. As I go through Normal and Sport modes, that transition gets more and more abrupt.

Same for acceleration. Econ has a much more gentle application of the power, Normal is modulated, Sport mode is very harsh.

There's even a change in cruise control. Econ will allow a few MPH change before attempting to get back to the selected speed and do so gently, Normal and Sport are more aggressive.

While there's no real change in the suspension components, this has the effect of making the suspension feel much more harsh, or "sporty" if that's your vibe.

For those that have driven manual transmissions, it's as if normal is the "correct" gear for the speed you're driving, Econ is one (maybe a half) gear higher, and Sport is one gear lower. Same feel.

That's a lot of typing to opine that I'd be willing to bet that this is what VW is doing, and if I ever get to see my Pro - and actually buy it - I'll test it myself.
 

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On my far-too-often-mentioned current Accord, when going from Econ to Normal to Sport, the throttle response becomes much more aggressive. Not just faster tip-in, but also the car will be much more aggressive about response to what my foot does on the pedal. In Econ, if I soften the pressure on the accelerator, I get a smooth transition to coasting even if I soften that pressure abruptly. As I go through Normal and Sport modes, that transition gets more and more abrupt.

Same for acceleration. Econ has a much more gentle application of the power, Normal is modulated, Sport mode is very harsh.

There's even a change in cruise control. Econ will allow a few MPH change before attempting to get back to the selected speed and do so gently, Normal and Sport are more aggressive.

While there's no real change in the suspension components, this has the effect of making the suspension feel much more harsh, or "sporty" if that's your vibe.

For those that have driven manual transmissions, it's as if normal is the "correct" gear for the speed you're driving, Econ is one (maybe a half) gear higher, and Sport is one gear lower. Same feel.

That's a lot of typing to opine that I'd be willing to bet that this is what VW is doing, and if I ever get to see my Pro - and actually buy it - I'll test it myself.
The thing is, there are individual separate settings for all the things you just mentioned, and suspension is its own setting as well. So it seems like the suspension setting couldn't be doing anything since there is no adjustable suspension that anyone can see.
 

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Got a Pro-S yesterday and joined the forum today. Been going through threads and came across this one about shocks. Anyone have experience with read shocks being "thunk-y" (for lack of a better word). Sometimes it seems like every pre-cut line on the road is meticulously counted. Seen this is Eco and Comfort modes.
 

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Welcome to the forum and your new ID.4 !

Most of us find the suspension very compliant in any mode (we're still unclear if there is in fact any mode-adjustment btw). Given the ID.4's low center of gravity and battery pack stiffened chassis the engineers were actually able to design a relatively soft suspension without imparting body roll.

Do you have the Gradient package and thereby 20" wheels? With a bit less sidewall then 19" wheels there will be a bit more road feel. However I find my FE 20" rims/tires to be quite good and on par with my wife's 18" GLA wheels (albeit stiffer run-flat tires in her case).

If you are getting significant "thunks" dealer prep may have neglected to remove the shipping spring restraints (aka "shipping blocks/straps"). The vehicle has to be jacked up, allowing the wheels/springs to slump, in order to see if present or not.

Got a Pro-S yesterday and joined the forum today. Been going through threads and came across this one about shocks. Anyone have experience with read shocks being "thunk-y" (for lack of a better word). Sometimes it seems like every pre-cut line on the road is meticulously counted. Seen this is Eco and Comfort modes.
 

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Welcome to the forum and your new ID.4 !

Most of us find the suspension very compliant in any mode (we're still unclear if there is in fact any mode-adjustment btw). Given the ID.4's low center of gravity and battery pack stiffened chassis the engineers were actually able to design a relatively soft suspension without imparting body roll.

Do you have the Gradient package and thereby 20" wheels? With a bit less sidewall then 19" wheels there will be a bit more road feel. However I find my FE 20" rims/tires to be quite good and on par with my wife's 18" GLA wheels (albeit stiffer run-flat tires in her case).

If you are getting significant "thunks" dealer prep may have neglected to remove the shipping spring restraints (aka "shipping blocks/straps"). The vehicle has to be jacked up, allowing the wheels/springs to slump, in order to see if present or not.
Thanks for the reply. I have the Pro-S statement with 19 inch wheels. I will find out about the shipping straps.
 

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The thing is, there are individual separate settings for all the things you just mentioned, and suspension is its own setting as well. So it seems like the suspension setting couldn't be doing anything since there is no adjustable suspension that anyone can see.
I read on a review site, unfortunately can't recall which one right now, that said the sport setting for suspension modifies the traction control to allow more slip during spirited driving.
 

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Maybe @VW TECHNICIAN can chime in on this? VW customer care seems to have finally given up on looking into why non-adjustable suspension has an adjustment choice in the MODE customization menu. :)
 
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