I would think the time to negotiate is after it leaves the factory. The $500 is fully refundable and the dealer has a car coming that they need to sell.With new ICE cars, VWs have a MSRP price and then typically a set of dealer incentives to buy from one dealer over another.
For the ID.4 am I expected to pay MSRP? In my area there are 4 major dealers. Shouldn't the dealers compete for my business and provide a dealer incentive to buy from them and increase their sales numbers?
Have any of you negotiated between dealers on an ordered ID.4?
Government discounts are between me and the government, what I'm offered and what I quality for... so don't comment on that please.
I was "told" when asked... "VW is selling the electric cars differently and we won't negotiate. It's VW's policy" I don't believe it. The dealer must be making money on the transaction and one dealer would be willing to work on a lower margin over another one in my area. It seems the time to negotiate is before the $400 payment.
Thanks for your insights
By law, VW cannot dictate the price a dealer charges. They've made it clear to dealers they didn't want any shenanigans with gouging or making reservations in order to flip them.This is probably just a sales tactic, but FWIW, the EV specialist at my dealer told me that selling below MSRP was not an option for them. In fact, he said that VW would cut off their ability to sell ID.4s in the future if they discounted these reserved cars. Maybe VWs way of trying to avoid competition between dealers? The EV specialist also indicated that they would not markup the car either.
How long till we see VW start running advertising only for the ID4? How many adds have you seen strictly on a Mach-e and not a general add for Ford?it is moot
Where did you ever hear that information from?VW has been extremely clear that the AWD ID4 was not coming to the NA market until Chattanooga was completed (at earliest 2022). That they are moving up deliveries of "pre-ordered" AWD units by shuffling Mosel production to squeeze in an AWD production run in 3/4Q '21 demonstrates that their ramp up of parts supplies are at a point where they are ready & only need the new factory to get completed.
parts are planned & then order executed at least 3 quarters ahead of time.
They were clear when I placed my order for AWD last Dec. when they said expected delivery was Q2 2021, which I think meant July-Aug. 2021. Then it quickly slipped to Q3, and now Q4 (but thats not been updated on their website when I check my order.)VW has been extremely clear that the AWD ID4 was not coming to the NA market until Chattanooga was completed (at earliest 2022).
New to me. Never heard or saw that the AWD would be produced in the US.VW has been extremely clear that the AWD ID4 was not coming to the NA market until Chattanooga was completed (at earliest 2022). That they are moving up deliveries of "pre-ordered" AWD units by shuffling Mosel production to squeeze in an AWD production run in 3/4Q '21 demonstrates that their ramp up of parts supplies are at a point where they are ready & only need the new factory to get completed.
parts are planned & then order executed at least 3 quarters ahead of time.
Well thanks for that information👍. IMO, VW hasn't been as transparent as most would like.If you want to understand what is going on with a German automaker, learn German. If not, you will need to watch the forums of vwidtalk or until some other EV publication translates the news for you in an article.
Having toured Wolfsburg factory; reading about production stoppages & why in German newspapers for 15 years & owning an e-Golf (after researching it for a year) & then seeing the timeline on parts changes over the last year model offering of the MKVII. Yeah... Do a lil more digging & not expect the news to be dished to you with a silver platter.
By the same logic, Volkswagen of America has at least this level of access to what is going on, and easily would be in a postion to be more transparent and forthcoming. This isn't Tesla after all, where there is no PR department and everyone needs to breathlessly follow Twitter.If you want to understand what is going on with a German automaker, learn German. If not, you will need to watch the forums of vwidtalk or until some other EV publication translates the news for you in an article.
Having toured Wolfsburg factory; reading about production stoppages & why in German newspapers for 15 years & owning an e-Golf (after researching it for a year) & then seeing the timeline on parts changes over the last year model offering of the MKVII. Yeah... Do a lil more digging & not expect the news to be dished to you with a silver platter.
