Theoretically, yes, you could delay putting it in service until after 1/1. The challenge will be if it is not a base standard model 3 it won't qualify - the higher trims exceed the $55,000 cap for cars. Also, I've read the battery cells for the model 3s come from China, so maybe no Half Credit there either. I'd say the odds are stacked against you.Already seeing some effects of the Inflation Act signing. 2022 ID.4s sitting on dealer lots in larger numbers. And Tesla model 3s available for order as early as October 2022. I see a lot more cancellations of Tesla's and German ID.4s because they are directly affected by the new tax bill. Should be interesting how large inventory of ID.4s get before end of year and how quickly you can take order on a Tesla.
If you order a Tesla Model 3 in Dec. 2022... can you refuse to pick it up until January 1st and sign the paperwork then to get the possible $3750 or $7500 off?
the first $3750 is from battery requirement which is 40% minerals should come from US free trade partners and unless clarified or some meaningful administrative direction,almost none will qualifyTheoretically, yes, you could delay putting it in service until after 1/1. The challenge will be if it is not a base standard model 3 it won't qualify - the higher trims exceed the $55,000 cap for cars. Also, I've read the battery cells for the model 3s come from China, so maybe no Half Credit there either. I'd say the odds are stacked against you.
Dave
Agreed, we shall see on the battery tests, but I wouldn't bet money on any more than a half credit for either the ID.4 or the Tesla model 3. There likely won't be any credits at all on anything beyond the standard range base trim model 3 because of the vehicle price restrictionthe first $3750 is from battery requirement which is 40% minerals should come from US free trade partners and unless clarified or some meaningful administrative direction,almost none will qualify
the second $3750 requirement is battery manufactured in US OR assembled in US. Even though Model 3 RWD battery is made in china by CATL but battery pack is assembled in california and car window sticker says battery from US.
so unless Tesla clarifies or if pack is assembled in US then technically this version should qualify atleast $3750
we should be knowing more details soon
agreed.. lot of interpretations.. i do see lot o folks who are expecting model 3 RWD around nov/dec are thinking to take after Jan 1... also they are worried and Tesla may cancel the orders. ohh boy.. one heck of law that was just rolled out into many livesAgreed, we shall see on the battery tests, but I wouldn't bet money on any more than a half credit for either the ID.4 or the Tesla model 3. There likely won't be any credits at all on anything beyond the standard range base trim model 3 because of the vehicle price restriction
The sticky part is that it doesn't say the battery is manufactured or assembled in the right place - it says 50% of the battery components are manufactured or assembled in the right place. As one example, I'm not sure how it will be interpreted if the cells are manufactured and assembled in China, then shipped to the US to be assembled into a finished battery.
Dave
Not sure this is true. Might be some “In-Transit” that are already sold that show up on Cars.com and dealer web sites, but I doubt they are sitting on the lots in large numbers un-sold. Certainly have not shown up in any of my searches.2022 ID.4s sitting on dealer lots in larger numbers
Where? My local dealer has just 1 out of 35 available to sell - which they are still selling for 5K markup. They just need one guy to pony up. Could change in a couple of months.Already seeing some effects of the Inflation Act signing. 2022 ID.4s sitting on dealer lots in larger numbers.
Supply not sitting anywhere I have seen and many people have tried that take before and come up empty. Where is the proof? It sure isn’t dealer sites with cars listed for sale as those are the reservations. Don’t believe me? Call them. As far as Tesla goes I doubt anyone here cares or we would be on the Tesla site. I personally won’t pay more for a car just because I like Elon Musk’s takes on what the “man on the street” really cares about. He is as detached from me as Howard Hughes was before him. Money can’t buy brains.Already seeing some effects of the Inflation Act signing. 2022 ID.4s sitting on dealer lots in larger numbers. And Tesla model 3s available for order as early as October 2022. I see a lot more cancellations of Tesla's and German ID.4s because they are directly affected by the new tax bill. Should be interesting how large inventory of ID.4s get before end of year and how quickly you can take order on a Tesla.
If you order a Tesla Model 3 in Dec. 2022... can you refuse to pick it up until January 1st and sign the paperwork then to get the possible $3750 or $7500 off?
I looked at my local dealer and they have 16 listed in inventory. 15 are reserved (and some of those still in transit) and one actually showed up as “available” with sale already pending.2022 ID.4s sitting on dealer lots in larger numbers.
We should always read the official guidance when possible. According to IRS.GOV:Already seeing some effects of the Inflation Act signing. 2022 ID.4s sitting on dealer lots in larger numbers. And Tesla model 3s available for order as early as October 2022. I see a lot more cancellations of Tesla's and German ID.4s because they are directly affected by the new tax bill. Should be interesting how large inventory of ID.4s get before end of year and how quickly you can take order on a Tesla.
If you order a Tesla Model 3 in Dec. 2022... can you refuse to pick it up until January 1st and sign the paperwork then to get the possible $3750 or $7500 off?
I am going to a dealer that had a back out yesterday on one that is supposed to get there tomorrow. They have said no mark up and that they'll apply the ev credit to the lease. I'm skeptical about that but we'll see. It's a higher trim than I was looking to get into so that credit on the lease will actually make or break the deal for me more than likely.
that’s why I’m skeptical… but they also may not use vwcredit. Dealers don’t have to use vwcredit do they?Let us know if that's the case. VW Leasing (i.e. VW Credit) put out a note saying effect immidiately they were no longer providing that. You can find it posted in multiple places on this board, so no use reposting it in this thread.
that’s why I’m skeptical… but they also may not use vwcredit. Dealers don’t have to use vwcredit do they?
I think 2021 id.4 backlog was stagnant before the signing. So much bad press on the software made people hold off. I wish I had done that, the tax credit was nice but the software is way frustrating. for instance this intermittent bug:Already seeing some effects of the Inflation Act signing. 2022 ID.4s sitting on dealer lots in larger numbers. And Tesla model 3s available for order as early as October 2022. I see a lot more cancellations of Tesla's and German ID.4s because they are directly affected by the new tax bill. Should be interesting how large inventory of ID.4s get before end of year and how quickly you can take order on a Tesla.
If you order a Tesla Model 3 in Dec. 2022... can you refuse to pick it up until January 1st and sign the paperwork then to get the possible $3750 or $7500 off?
Hmmm .. 🤔I think 2021 id.4 backlog was stagnant before the signing. So much bad press on the software made people hold off. I wish I had done that, the tax credit was nice but the software is way frustrating. for instance this intermittent bug:
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Turn it off and back on does not fix. Waiting about an hour and it goes away. weird.
I will forward the photos to service dept, but so far they have been clueless with this car. The black screen problem has been a NTF every time reported.Hmmm .. 🤔
I don't think that's a 2.1 stability bug. I think that's a problem with your car that needs fixing. I've never seen that message on my display, and don't recall too many reports of it on this forum or on Facebook.
The only stagnant backlog were the 22s sitting at port for months awaiting a resolution to the software update. The dealer lots were picked bare of 21s for most of the first months of this year.
