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This is good news. It means that cars that customers have ordered and have been waiting for are starting to arrive at dealers.

It means nothing else. 90%+ of these cars are already spoken for and the others are customers that refused their orders at the last minute. These will be sold within days (hours?) to those willing to pay a markup.

I got two calls from the dealers offering me to buy id.4 RWD and AWD pro s almost without any markup (1k).

I do think that the number of unclaimed cars is rising fast. Not having a 7500 rebate will stop many buyers.

Anyway, just a fact from today....

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I got two calls from the dealers offering me to buy id.4 RWD and AWD pro s almost without any markup (1k).

I do think that the number of unclaimed cars is rising fast. Not having a 7500 rebate will stop many buyers.

Anyway, just a fact from today....

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Got another call today - from Audi (I have Q4 eTron order as well). 4 etrons for sale, unclaimed (Houston).
Will see tomorrow how much they want above MSRP.

Anyway, the signal is pretty clear IMHO - we are finishing a seller's market, and moving into the buyers' market very soon. With today's 8.3% inflation, we will see another interest rate hike. My current car loan interest is 0.9%. The same car loan now - 4%. Soon will be 5%. This is an additional 140-170$ in ID.4 Pro S case. Ford Mache may ask 20K more - let's see them when they will have more stock than buyers. They had a golden age period for some time ...

Let us not forget that money-wise buying EV is not profitable. Despite many people saying otherwise. PHEV / Hybrid is a better choice (money wise). I have both, and I have very nice excel to compare.

 

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I somewhat agree on PHEV a bit cheaper to operate but won’t it erase those savings when battery needs replacement? Provided you mainly use it on EV mode, doing 0-100% almost every day will ruin that battery in no time.

Nope - have 2 PHEVs, one from 2018 with no battery degradation. Remember that they have large buffers. So you are doing from 15% to 85% each day, that is fine.

 

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Your conditions may apply to you but not to others. With a plug in hybrid you will be paying for electricity and gas vs someone who uses 100% free charging, for example.

You are correct - if you drive Houston to Dallas on regular basis - you may cover the additional cost of EV in 2-3 years.
Said that - buying EV is still not a good investment, but rather a great car to drive (IMHO). I am not trying to save, I am trying to enjoy.

BTW, a good example is - BMW X5 45e - 60K after all rebates in Texas (in 2021, no idea how much it is now). Fully loaded.

 

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You are correct - if you drive Houston to Dallas on regular basis - you may cover the additional cost of EV in 2-3 years.
Said that - buying EV is still not a good investment, but rather a great car to drive (IMHO). I am not trying to save, I am trying to enjoy.

BTW, a good example is - BMW X5 45e - 60K after all rebates in Texas (in 2021, no idea how much it is now). Fully loaded.

P.S. Do not forget that electricity price is rising - new contracts in Texas are now about 20c per kW (was 11c last year). Just returned from Spain - new contracts get up to 1Euro per kW...

 

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But all EVs have buffer too. i.e. ID4 has 82 kwh battery but only 77 useable, on top of that they ask to charge max to 80% and min to 10%, still battery degrades. I guess any battery's life is about 1000 charging cycles and PHEVs will go through them a lot quicker than big battery cars.

Buffer is bigger in PHEV - X5 45e is 24kWh battery with 18 kWh usable. EV never provides such buffers (% wise)
But even for smaller buffers (like Volt - 18kWh battery, 14kWh usable - people are doing more than 300K miles w/o an issue.

 

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Well got ANOTHER call today from same dealer in san diego, another cancellation. Seems like deliveries are picking up now or they just had a major drop .

Yep, I see this more and more. I guess people realize that spending 55K on a car MY2022 when they can get MY2023 for a bit less due to federal rebate - make no financial sense.

 

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They will - add to this stock market, crypto, inflation - people will run out of money and will stop buying all they see.

EV is not an economic choice but a luxury choice - there is no economic benefit of buying an EV ( unless you plan to have a car for 6-7 years and even then I am not sure ).

IMHO

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