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Already seeing some effects of the Inflation Act signing. 2022 ID.4s sitting on dealer lots in larger numbers. And Tesla model 3s available for order as early as October 2022. I see a lot more cancellations of Tesla's and German ID.4s because they are directly affected by the new tax bill. Should be interesting how large inventory of ID.4s get before end of year and how quickly you can take order on a Tesla.

If you order a Tesla Model 3 in Dec. 2022... can you refuse to pick it up until January 1st and sign the paperwork then to get the possible $3750 or $7500 off?

 

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The risk of it going kaput after 8 years is extremely high. And we are talking about 20K-30K. Not a small number. Engines dont go completely dead after warranty. They are easily repairable for much much less. You cant repair battery packs. At least not now. Tesla is making sure that new battery packs are impossible to repair. I think the industry is addicted to revenue stream and will make battery packs subscription based.

I think CA has a law written that the battery is guaranteed for 10 years. It overrules the 8 year manufacturer warranty. I could be wrong. 10 years for a car is a LONG freaking time in this era of technology. Do you realize how antiquated that touchscreen is gonna feel in 10 years in the VW ID.4 with the piano black plastic gloss? The tech not lasting 10 years, or being buggy and not upgraded in the ID.4 is a far bigger concern than the battery.

 

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They will - add to this stock market, crypto, inflation - people will run out of money and will stop buying all they see.

EV is not an economic choice but a luxury choice - there is no economic benefit of buying an EV ( unless you plan to have a car for 6-7 years and even then I am not sure ).

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In the current environment, where no dealers are offering ICE vehicles below MSRP and gas prices in CA are $7 a gallon, EV is definitely in the running to be the economic choice if you pre-ordered and get it at MSRP. Not the high end Tesla's.. but the Model 3 and VW ID.4 and the chevy EUV are cheaper than similarly equipped ICE vehicles after the FED Rebates.. and then the state rebates vary and can make them a better deal than ICE quickly after year 1.

The benefit of ICE over EV was always the promotions and discounts were usually better. That hasn't been the case for 3 years. Throw in the new $7500 fed credit next year for GM, Tesla and VW... and those EV brands will have a huge advantage over ICE. Although I do see the ICE vehicles coming down from MSRP again next year. So all will balance out eventually.

This 4th quarter... Oct-December will be really bad for Tesla for deliveries. Not a single person with any sense wouldn't try with all their might to push the delivery of their Model 3 to january 1st, 2023.