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Different wheel/tire sizes front/rear! AWD now listed as Mid 2021.

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Did anyone notice that the ID.4 has different wheel sizes front to rear.

Below are the specs for the AWD w/Gradient.

Wheels/Tires : 20-in x 8J in front & 20-in x 9J in rear aluminum-alloy wheels 235/50 R20 104T XL in front 255/45 R20 105T XL in rear.

I'm not sure how I feel about that yet, I did a preorder for the above mentioned spec. Obviously it complicates rotations and such.

I noticed the preorder site now lists AWD as available "Mid 2021", which I think is new.

Thanks all. New to this forum, but kind of excited for a main stream EV. I've owned several VW or Audi brand vehicles. This seems like it would be a good intro to the EV world, though I'm sure I will still own an ICE vehicle of some kind for many years to come.
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Yeah I saw that too! Was kinda feeling weird about rotations myself. I guess we will be buying 2 tires sooner than normal, but rear tires will last longer than normal. There are some quirks like the tire issue.
For the RWD model, the rear tires will wear out considerably faster than the front tires. It will depend how they set up the car for wear on the AWD models.
Staggered wheels suck and had to deal with that on many Teslas. What I started doing was to downgrade the wheels to the non-staggered equivalents for better range and easier tire work.
Staggered wheel/tire sizes are pretty common on RWD-based vehicles. Wider tires help put the power down, and more grip at the back relative to the front means it also helps to reduce oversteer (which could be seen as a downside, if you prefer strong RWD dynamics). Unless the tires are directional, you just rotate them side-to-side.
It looks like profile and tread is different. What would you do in that situation? Rotating them side to side isn’t rotating them, correct? You still will have outside wear on front tires. From what I understand the rears don’t wear on the outside as much. My fronts always wear more than my rears on my RWD vehicle.
The Pros w/ AWD were listed as available from mid-2021 since launch day.
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My Denver dealer just reached out to check in to see if I had questions. I asked about mid-2021 delivery on the AWD and he said his system said September. I was hoping for earlier, but I will have to slum it in my Tesla Model 3 for a few more months.
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My Denver dealer just reached out to check in to see if I had questions. I asked about mid-2021 delivery on the AWD and he said his system said September. I was hoping for earlier, but I will have to slum it in my Tesla Model 3 for a few more months.
Nice to see someone else is done with their Tesla. I'm just over the gimmicks and stuff. I'll call my dealer and see if they have any news on test drives or something, I guess.
Can you get his input on 1st Editions? For the rest of us impatient idiots!
My Denver dealer just reached out to check in to see if I had questions. I asked about mid-2021 delivery on the AWD and he said his system said September. I was hoping for earlier, but I will have to slum it in my Tesla Model 3 for a few more months.
Are you just getting a second car or replacing the Model 3? If the latter, I'm curious why you would replace it. Thanks.
I had a few emails with my dealer today. He thinks I will get my AWD ID.4 in July and I will get it before he gets the dealer demo vehicle.
He also said that so far, I am the only reservation his dealership has. This has me a little nervous.
Are you just getting a second car or replacing the Model 3? If the latter, I'm curious why you would replace it. Thanks.
I have a Model 3 and I'll be trading mine in. It's absolute garbage in terms of build quality. Service is so bad. All gimmicks instead of making the car better. Fart noises, video games, etc.
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I had a few emails with my dealer today. He thinks I will get my AWD ID.4 in July and I will get it before he gets the dealer demo vehicle.
He also said that so far, I am the only reservation his dealership has. This has me a little nervous.
Do you live in a big metropolitan area?
Do you live in a big metropolitan area?
No. I live in Maine, only 4 dealers in the state. I have had issues dealing with the other 3 so I chose this one. It is also the closest to me, at 1 hr away.
... or in the case of the Audi TTRS & RS3 (both Quattro AWD with somewhat rear-bias) wider profile tires are in front to help offset understeer, but those are an exception. In RWD yes better to put the power down and also more wear.

Staggered wheel/tire sizes are pretty common on RWD-based vehicles. Wider tires help put the power down, and more grip at the back relative to the front means it also helps to reduce oversteer (which could be seen as a downside, if you prefer strong RWD dynamics). Unless the tires are directional, you just rotate them side-to-side.
Wheels/Tires : 20-in x 8J in front & 20-in x 9J in rear aluminum-alloy wheels 235/50 R20 104T XL in front 255/45 R20 105T XL in rear.
Has anyone heard what brand and series of tires they will be using on the 20” wheels?
I had a few emails with my dealer today. He thinks I will get my AWD ID.4 in July and I will get it before he gets the dealer demo vehicle.
He also said that so far, I am the only reservation his dealership has. This has me a little nervous.
My dealer (near Seattle) said they had over 20 reservations, but expected only about half of them to convert to real purchases.
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And therein lies the problem with such statistics and in turn VW's production planning.

My dealer (near Seattle) said they had over 20 reservations, but expected only about half of them to convert to real purchases.
A Customer Care rep told me last week that the current AWD availability is "third quarter 2021".
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