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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Is it just me or does the back of this thing pick up dirt like it's its job? I'm assuming it's the aerodynamics but the gate on this car is just permanently dirty. An hour after washing it's covered in black shit.

I haven't waxed yet so maybe that will help but I doubt it.
 

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Same with mine. I also thought the same regarding aerodynamics. No forces in the back to remove the dirt especially with that top spoiler directing the wind away from the back window. One solution is to drive in reverse to your final destination 馃お
 

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Nothing new, all my VW diesels have had this problem.

Oh, wait a sec... 馃

Yeah, I've given two partial washes just to quickly clean the tailgate without washing the whole car. Figure it's negative pressure and a vortex of freeway dust. Sucks with white.

When I see the walk - around of the Ioniq 5 with its ducted spoiler, I wonder if that eliminates the problem?
 

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Its a normal thing with the hatch-style rear end. My GTI is always caked in road dust after a short drive.
 

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Same with mine. I also thought the same regarding aerodynamics. No forces in the back to remove the dirt especially with that top spoiler directing the wind away from the back window. One solution is to drive in reverse to your final destination 馃お
Comparison of some different car bodies and the aerodynamics. Hatchbacks push air against rear window.
 

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While several suggest the hatchback design is the culprit, it does seem that the ID4's rear end gets dirty faster. I'm comparing this to the Saturn VUE it replaced and the GLC300 we still own. Of course, it doesn't help that the VW is white.
 

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Typical aerodynamically spoiled air at the rear of hatchbacks/wagons. Wife鈥檚 GLA is just as bad.
 

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How bad does it show on the blue @Huey52
It鈥檚 on of the reasons I chose blue over white.
White is really nice, as long as it is clean鈥
 

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It鈥檚 not too bad on the blue, I haven鈥檛 noticed it. But I do come from a blue hatchback and might be desensitized.
This shade of blue attracts hummingbird poop like nobody鈥檚 business though. Never have I had so many telltale yellowish smears on a car, especially on the haunches.
 

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How bad does it show on the blue @Huey52
It鈥檚 on of the reasons I chose blue over white.
White is really nice, as long as it is clean鈥
Yeah,
We were actually going to buy a white FE a month or so back, but when we went to test drive the dealership's white demo we saw just how dirty it would be (I was pretty shocked that the dealer let it get that dirty, but I'm glad for the unintentional honesty :) )

We'll see how moonstone fares once we finally have it
 

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The blue looks a lot better dirty than my wife鈥檚 white CUV, that鈥檚 for sure!

We鈥檙e in the midst of our New England pine pollen 鈥淛une gloom鈥 at the moment which makes things even worst.

[not to be confused with San Diego鈥檚 June gloom which is a Japan current induced fog thing.]
How bad does it show on the blue @Huey52
It鈥檚 on of the reasons I chose blue over white.
White is really nice, as long as it is clean鈥
 

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Discussion Starter · #14 ·
The new England pine pollen is killing me.

Honestly I'd have gotten blue or the moonstone had I known how bad it was going to be. Ah, well. Maybe after a claybar and wax it won't stick quite so much.
 

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I don't know anything about it and assumed it was a gimmick. What's a good one to get?
 

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Silver is the best color for hiding pollen and dried Winter salt. I almost went Pro S in Scale Silver, but then along came Mary and the FE "2nd chance." ;)

I too thought Ceramic coatings were a dealership gimmick when first introduced, along with their interior "teflon" [shades of "Rusty Jones" back in the day?]. But there's real molecular bonding science behind the quality ceramic applications.
I've not used it myself tho' so will let those with experience advise. Whenever my Zaino and Griot's synthetic run out I plan to transition to their ceramic:

What the heck is "Ceramic" anyways?
The term "ceramic" and its use in the automotive surface care realm has emerged over the past decade or so. It is not a marketing term, ceramics are rooted in solid, advanced chemistry. The active ingredient SiO2 (or silicon dioxide) which is a derivative of silica delivered in liquid form in most automobile-related applications. There are many approaches to the carrier chemistry which apply this technology. Professional ceramics often rely on solvent- and resin-based formulas which can be temperamental and hazardous to apply. Our Ceramic 3-in-1 formula features a proprietary water-based blend of special ultra-hydrophobic polymers, nanoparticles of SiO2, and carnauba wax. Ceramics are touted for their extreme durability, hydrophobic or water beading effect, UV protection, and their ability to produce a high-gloss finish. They also have "self-cleaning" properties, which is defined by the resistance to soil, grime, oil, alkaline, and acids. So, a ceramic-treated surface sheds these contaminants, or self-cleans, when exposed to rain... keeping your vehicle cleaner longer.
-Griot's Garage
I don't know anything about it and assumed it was a gimmick. What's a good one to get?
 

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Discussion Starter · #18 ·
After seeing some shootouts I think I'm going to get the turtle wax hybrid series. Seems to last the longest of the ones the dude tested.

I'm wondering if I need a polisher or if my Ryobi buffer will do. They've got a nice polisher that uses the one+ batteries, though 200 bucks is more than I'm wanting to spend at the moment.
 

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Not knocking it until I try it. I'm sure the product does what it's supposed to do. But just the idea of rubbing "SiO2" on my car makes me picture taking sandpaper to my paint job. :p
 

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That's how I felt about the aluminum oxide layer in my laminate flooring to facilitate longer wear. Counter intuitive. ;)
Not knocking it until I try it. I'm sure the product does what it's supposed to do. But just the idea of rubbing "SiO2" on my car makes me picture taking sandpaper to my paint job. :p
 
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