[nicholas.hammerschmidt]

20K Miles and they will need to be replaced before winter. There is no treadlife warranty on them and no real other All Season options other than the OEM Bridgestones. $900 to replace the set. For reference, I have a 1st Edition with the 20" wheels.

 

[Stinsy]

How about the Hankook tires that are fitted OEM to iD4s in Europe?

 

[VW TECHNICIAN]

On all new models it doesn't matter is it EV or ICE....tires are specifically designed for higher traction and they will last a lot less than normal tires....
You can go with Michelin same size all over no need for staggered setup if ....chasing the curves is not your choice.
Just try to get low rolling resistance tires ( if you go cheap it cost you range)

 

[VW TECHNICIAN]

How about the Hankook tires that are fitted OEM to iD4s in Europe?

Hankook EV tires use foam inside that helps with noise but they are more expensive than most expensive Michelin.

 

[JimmyVW]

Hankook EV tires use foam inside that helps with noise but they are more expensive than most expensive Michelin.

You keep mentioning Michelin’s, but never the exact type. Could you tell me which ones fit the ID.4?

 

[VW TECHNICIAN]

You keep mentioning Michelin’s, but never the exact type. Could you tell me which ones fit the ID.4?

They are already on sale in EU look for new Michelin EV tires..... just type on search engine for new EV tires made by Michelin.
You will not be disappointed this what I'm allowed to say.
For US they are still not available.

 

[Stinsy]

These look decent for the price:

 

[edid4]

On all new models it doesn't matter is it EV or ICE....tires are specifically designed for higher traction and they will last a lot less than normal tires....
You can go with Michelin same size all over no need for staggered setup if ....chasing the curves is not your choice.
Just try to get low rolling resistance tires ( if you go cheap it cost you range)

What difference in daily driving will be noticed if the same size tire is used on both front and rear?

Which size would be preferred, the OEM front size or the rear?

If you are talking reduced performance in curves with the same size all around, I'm old and don't care about ultimate performance. I just want a good driving car which I currently have. IMHO

 

[Spin]

I was disappointed to learn from my 10k service that my rear tires were down to 6/32. I guess I will need to replace the rears before 20k.

 

[Stinsy]

Don’t forget VW factory fit a square setup (235 all round) on some trim levels in Europe. Wider rear has led to do with curves and more to do with full-throttle launches away from the line.

 

[jgoodnough]

So if I were to choose a square set-up going forward isn't it likely that the rear tires will be stressed a good deal more than they would in an asymmetric arrangement...thereby causing accelerated wear? I'm in "edid4's" camp being older and less sporty when driving than in prior years. If a square set up would provide good mileage and overall performance I'd be happy to go that route, but not if the rears will always be wearing out faster. Plus does this require new wheels or are the original VW wheels able to be fit square?

 

[Huey52]

Yes, especially in the USA "off the line" performance is a widely evaluated criteria. The innate EV torque coupled with wider RWD tires is a positive performance factor for me in daily traffic maneuvering, so paying more for tires over time is relatively acceptable. [I too am older in "it's only a number" but still appreciate defensive driving performance ... and more comfort. ]
I also understand the rationale for starting out with shallower tire tread, even if I don't especially appreciate the inherent cost of that factor.

Don’t forget VW factory fit a square setup (235 all round) on some trim levels in Europe. Wider rear has led to do with curves and more to do with full-throttle launches away from the line.

 

[Keowee]

Michelin Launches Pilot Sport EV Tire - Tire Review Magazine

The Michelin Pilot Sport EV will be rolled out during 2021 in a choice of 16 sizes (OE: 11 sizes; replacement market: five sizes) for 18- to 22-in. rims.

www.tirereview.com

 

[7S POWER]

20K Miles and they will need to be replaced before winter. There is no treadlife warranty on them and no real other All Season options other than the OEM Bridgestones. $900 to replace the set. For reference, I have a 1st Edition with the 20" wheels.

Generally speaking, a set of 20" tires are expensive to replace. Perhaps switch to the less expensive 19" or maybe 18" wheel+tires?

Have you checked TR?

 

[Don]

Generally speaking, a set of 20" tires are expensive to replace. Perhaps switch to the less expensive 19" or maybe 18" wheel+tires?

The OEM 19" Hankook EV tires which came stock on the Pro models are more expensive than the 20" Bridgestones by about $300 a set

As to mounting a set of the same size all around, in the USA most -reputable- tire shops will refuse to mount any size other than what's called for on the door jamb sticker for liability reasons. I know Walmart would not and the same for 3 or 4 other local shops that I checked out when I had my Miata. Mine came with 185/60R14's, but the same exact car only in a different trim level came with 195/50R15's and when I upgraded my wheels to 15 inch, I had to take the tires and wheels into the shop to get them mounted and balanced and then home to put them on the car myself

Don

 

[fireboy92k]

Yeah, it's broadly been my experience that factory rubber rarely lasts beyond 25k or so over several cars. Just the way they outfit them for 'performance' for 'longevity'.

As Don mentioned, it will be hard to get someone to source and install tires differently than what's on your door placard as an 'all in one'. You can work around that as he mentioned or you might live in the country where a local mechanic may be more inclined to do that than a bigger chain.

It does appear that the 20's don't have many other options in an EV-specific tire at the moment. There are lots of options if you want to give up the efficiency gain of the lower rolling resistance. Tire Rack only shows the Bridgestone's and the Scorpions (which are not rated) as all-weather options. Tire Search Results (tirerack.com)

Costco on the other hand has a ton of options, but none of them are EV 'rated'. This doesn't mean they won't work, just means your efficiency will suffer.

 

[Dougie01]

As to mounting a set of the same size all around, in the USA most -reputable- tire shops will refuse to mount any size other than what's called for on the door jamb sticker for liability reasons.

Interesting, that has not been my experience. I have had a wide range of non-stock tires installed on a variety of cars at tire stores in Colorado and Massachusetts with no questions asked. Most fun was some 175/75-R14 snow tires on my 1993 Miata, which rubbed the fenders on turns. Also had some Yokohama 195/60-R14 A032R tires on it; they were sticky and noisy and fun to aquaplane on any puddle.

Maybe the legal question varies by state?

 

[Neil]

Interesting, that has not been my experience. I have had a wide range of non-stock tires installed on a variety of cars at tire stores in Colorado and Massachusetts with no questions asked. Most fun was some 175/75-R14 snow tires on my 1993 Miata, which rubbed the fenders on turns. Also had some Yokohama 195/60-R14 A032R tires on it; they were sticky and noisy and fun to aquaplane on any puddle.

Maybe the legal question varies by state?

I think this is a business liability decision, not a legal issue. When I decided to replace the OEM run-flats on my Mercedes with non-run flats, the first 2 retailers I asked to quote wouldn't even though I was looking to replace with the same size as the OEMs.

 

[7S POWER]

The OEM 19" Hankook EV tires which came stock on the Pro models are more expensive than the 20" Bridgestones by about $300 a set
Don

Y, I knew that.

You jumped the horse. You made an apple vs orange comparison, EV tires vs A/S tires.

Basically, it comes down to $$$. The 20" staggered tires will cost more than 19 staggered of the same category i.e A/S vs A/S.
Therefore more sales for the tire shop than anything else. If the tire shop refuses then take the business somewhere else.

Hankook 19" tires are EV dedicated tires vs OE 20" Bridgestone which aren't. So, therefore, the 19" Hankook EV tires cost more.

EV tires

vs A/S tires

 

[Huey52]

As we know in the case of our ID.4 that "performance" is more so to meet or exceed marketed range and thereby we start out with shallower tread for lower rolling resistance. But the wider staggered rears are for that better off the line performance and cornering which also supports marketing.

Yeah, it's broadly been my experience that factory rubber rarely lasts beyond 25k or so over several cars. Just the way they outfit them for 'performance' for 'longevity'.

As Don mentioned, it will be hard to get someone to source and install tires differently than what's on your door placard as an 'all in one'. You can work around that as he mentioned or you might live in the country where a local mechanic may be more inclined to do that than a bigger chain.

It does appear that the 20's don't have many other options in an EV-specific tire at the moment. There are lots of options if you want to give up the efficiency gain of the lower rolling resistance. Tire Rack only shows the Bridgestone's and the Scorpions (which are not rated) as all-weather options. Tire Search Results (tirerack.com)

Costco on the other hand has a ton of options, but none of them are EV 'rated'. This doesn't mean they won't work, just means your efficiency will suffer.