Driver Free remote parking, 2022?

Trunkenbold said:

I was reading that VW is planning on introducing driver free remote parking on the ... 2022 ID.4. I'm sure it isn't a dealbreaker feature for me, but it would be very disappointing for there to be what seems to be a mostly software feature introduced on only the 2022 cars. Maybe we will get lucky and it will be part of the first OTA update

2022 VW ID.4 Slated to Get Driver-Free Remote Parking App

The technology, first announced in 2018, is out on the Europe-market Touareg SUV and is slated for the Volkswagen EV in the U.S. soon.

www.caranddriver.com

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Reading that article, I wonder if the 2021 ID.4 has the required cameras and ultrasounds sensors needed to do the autonomous parking.

Good question. It is certainly possible but hard to know.

MCheiron said:

Reading that article, I wonder if the 2021 ID.4 has the required cameras and ultrasounds sensors needed to do the autonomous parking.

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When I asked emobiliy about auto-lane and self-parking they told me this:

The ID.4 will be available in model year 2021 with a standard drivers assistance package, including adaptive cruise control, lane assist, and other safety and convenience-related features.



However, the ID.4 will not offer auto-lane change or self-parking for 2021. We are continuing to develop software that enables advance drivers assistance and autonomy. Auto lane change and self-parking will be available at a later point in the lifecycle

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I don’t know if later on in the lifecycle means another model year or later on thru software updates. Hopefully the latter. I asked for specification but never got a reply

That's the big question I have too, actually 3 questions:

1. Will subsequent features like this one require additional hardware, which is standard on new model years?
2. Will new hardware be available on older models as dealer installable upgrades?
3. If no new hardware is required, will VW make the software updates available to all models (free or paid), or will they be tempted to play the shitty game of "updates on current model year only"?

I hope market pressure will keep them away from the latter temptation, and do the right thing.

ChristophW said:

That's the big question I have too, actually 3 questions:

1. Will subsequent features like this one require additional hardware, which is standard on new model years?
2. Will new hardware be available on older models as dealer installable upgrades?
3. If no new hardware is required, will VW make the software updates available to all models (free or paid), or will they be tempted to play the shitty game of "updates on current model year only"?

I hope market pressure will keep them away from the latter temptation, and do the right thing.

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I wish they would be more transparent with us in terms of software. I wouldn’t say it’s a dealbreaker for me but it’s uncomfortable not knowing what the car will include

I just got a response from emobility and they said that the sensors needed for the remote parking will be included on the 2022 model, but not the 2021 which sucks.

tallt456 said:

I just got a response from emobility and they said that the sensors needed for the remote parking will be included on the 2022 model, but not the 2021 which sucks.

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Thank you for letting the rest of us know!

tallt456 said:

I just got a response from emobility and they said that the sensors needed for the remote parking will be included on the 2022 model, but not the 2021 which sucks.

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That is shocking, not because features aren't developed or added over time, but rather because VW already has the sensors deployed on 2021 ID.3s and maybe even EU ID.4's and knows what's needed. VW just chose not to integrate the sensors for the first few cars. Now, I'm wondering what other standard 2021 EU ID.4 features will come over to the 2022 NA ID.4. It does suck. Wait a few months and possibly get a car with features already deployed elsewhere. Matrix lights, 360 camera, heat pump, HUD are certainly possibilities in addition to the auto park / lane change feature. I'm not saying these additional features won't add to the price.

Does anybody have an estimate when the 2022 version is being sold? If the 2021 is being delivered in September or later that is nearly already the 2022 model in ICE history.

corfam said:

That is shocking, not because features aren't developed or added over time, but rather because VW already has the sensors deployed on 2021 ID.3s and maybe even EU ID.4's and knows what's needed. VW just chose not to integrate the sensors for the first few cars. Now, I'm wondering what other standard 2021 EU ID.4 features will come over to the 2022 NA ID.4. It does suck. Wait a few months and possibly get a car with features already deployed elsewhere. Matrix lights, 360 camera, heat pump, HUD are certainly possibilities in addition to the auto park / lane change feature. I'm not saying these additional features won't add to the price.

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VW is likely waiting until local production in the US is up and running to reduce costs before giving us the feature complete vehicle that the rest of the world has.

That is what I was wondering too. It seems like the 2021 is missing a few things to save costs for the extra tariffs since it is imported. I am starting to wonder if I will be happier waiting for a 2022 model, especially since the AWD versions are so close to when the 2022 could be hitting market anyway.

MCheiron said:

Does anybody have an estimate when the 2022 version is being sold? If the 2021 is being delivered in September or later that is nearly already the 2022 model in ICE history.

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As mentioned in another thread, if info published is it to be believed (Donlen Fleet Management), 2022 models start production towards the later part of June 2021. That seems to line up with deliveries in September. If there really will be 2021 AWD cars available before then, it's probably better to just wait, but that probably won't be clear for at least a few more months. What factory, what cost, and what features will be on 2022 models all would affect how I'd like to make my decision.

The EV mustang is a good indicator of one way to handle this. If you buy the optional technology package, you have the "hooks" already incorporated for partial self-driving, which will be an OTA software upgrade after payment of an additional fee. That says to me that the "hooks" are the additional sensors required. So it looks like the answer for 2021 ID.4 vehicles is "No".
I agree that Sept + cars--the now indicated AWD availability-- would normally be the next model year ie: 2022. In Germany, most car factories shut down in August for model year changeover and vacations, so cars produced Sept-on are the next model year. BUT, as was mentioned, VW MAY choose to hold the 2022 MY designation for TN vehicles, just for clarity's sake. A 2021 is a German car. A 2022 is a TN car. Customer Service told me that the first US-bound AWD ID.4's would be German production at the same time they told me that AWD availability was now "third quarter".

456.833 said:

When I asked emobiliy about auto-lane and self-parking they told me this:



I don’t know if later on in the lifecycle means another model year or later on thru software updates. Hopefully the latter. I asked for specification but never got a reply

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How are you able to get in touch with the eMobility team?

MyfirstEV said:

How are you able to get in touch with the eMobility team?

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A simple search here for emobility email shows:
emobility@vw.com

ted99 said:

I agree that Sept + cars--the now indicated AWD availability-- would normally be the next model year ie: 2022. In Germany, most car factories shut down in August for model year changeover and vacations, so cars produced Sept-on are the next model year. BUT, as was mentioned, VW MAY choose to hold the 2022 MY designation for TN vehicles, just for clarity's sake. A 2021 is a German car. A 2022 is a TN car. Customer Service told me that the first US-bound AWD ID.4's would be German production at the same time they told me that AWD availability was now "third quarter".

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My understanding is that production in TN doesn't start until Sept 2022, so those vehicles would be the 2023 model.

Not interested in self parking.
I'm waiting for a few really useful changes: Plug and charge, ID4 internal time charging working, ability to select and then remember selections like lane assist or wide view rear camera. How about closing windows from key fob?
To me those should be easy OTA software updates.

BlueDH said:

Not interested in self parking.
I'm waiting for a few really useful changes: Plug and charge, ID4 internal time charging working, ability to select and then remember selections like lane assist or wide view rear camera. How about closing windows from key fob?
To me those should be easy OTA software updates.

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Hi
You can open and close windows with the key fob now. Just click once to unlock and then click and hold for the windows to open. Sam to close and lock. You will need to set up in the infotainment system under vehicle whether to open drivers window only or all windows. By the way with the fob you can also open and close the back door
Joel

JoelB said:

Hi
You can open and close windows with the key fob now. Just click once to unlock and then click and hold for the windows to open. Sam to close and lock. You will need to set up in the infotainment system under vehicle whether to open drivers window only or all windows. By the way with the fob you can also open and close the back door
Joel

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Mine doesn't close windows, just opens them