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Have a 1st (non-max) on order here in Sweden with the option to cancel if I don't like it.

Local dealer got one in (also non max), so took it for a spin. Well, not sure I liked it as much as I expected.

The interior was, well, ok. Plastic felt fairly cheap in several areas.

Seats were good but not great. Felt like they were lacking in side support, so you'd slide around a bit more than desired on curvy roads.

Power was good, not Tesla quick but more than enough.

I presume this had the 2.1 update but the screen still lagged now and then while swiping. Voice control felt like more of a novelty than something actually useful.

And it felt really big to drive somehow. Hard to put my finger on exactly what it is, but it felt like a pretty cumbersome vehicle despite the nimble steering.

After that I decided to test drive another e-Niro. That felt much more nimble, with seats that hug you a bit and a good bit peppier (probably partially due to Hyundai/Kia not making the pedal response "refined" so it just hits you with all the torque immediately, which can be good and bad). Definitely smaller in the back (both backseat and storage), but I have to say that it was a lot more enjoyable to drive. Loads of standard equipment (sun roof, wireless phone charger, ventilated seats, blind spot warning etc, things you don't get on a base 1st here).

Not sure if I should go try another ID4 or what. At this point I am wondering if I should just cancel the order. The ID4 is on paper the superior vehicle in pretty much every way but I just... didn't really like it?
 

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Not sure if I should go try another ID4 or what. At this point I am wondering if I should just cancel the order. The ID4 is on paper the superior vehicle in pretty much every way but I just... didn't really like it?
If I were you I would think about it for a few days, maybe try another ID4 as you mentioned, and then make a final decision. It's possible first impressions just didn't live up to built up expectations, but that overall it still is your best choice. If you still feel the same after several days, then the answer will be clear. Cost isn't trivial so don't settle.
 

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If I were you I would think about it for a few days, maybe try another ID4 as you mentioned, and then make a final decision. It's possible first impressions just didn't live up to built up expectations, but that overall it still is your best choice. If you still feel the same after several days, then the answer will be clear. Cost isn't trivial so don't settle.
Yeah, I have the right to cancel right until pickup so no rush. It might be a case of too high expectations, so will go ahead and give it another go in a few days. I really like everything about it objectively, but it just didn't "click" while driving it.
 

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Have a 1st (non-max) on order here in Sweden with the option to cancel if I don't like it.

Local dealer got one in (also non max), so took it for a spin. Well, not sure I liked it as much as I expected.

The interior was, well, ok. Plastic felt fairly cheap in several areas.

Seats were good but not great. Felt like they were lacking in side support, so you'd slide around a bit more than desired on curvy roads.

Power was good, not Tesla quick but more than enough.

I presume this had the 2.1 update but the screen still lagged now and then while swiping. Voice control felt like more of a novelty than something actually useful.

And it felt really big to drive somehow. Hard to put my finger on exactly what it is, but it felt like a pretty cumbersome vehicle despite the nimble steering.

After that I decided to test drive another e-Niro. That felt much more nimble, with seats that hug you a bit and a good bit peppier (probably partially due to Hyundai/Kia not making the pedal response "refined" so it just hits you with all the torque immediately, which can be good and bad). Definitely smaller in the back (both backseat and storage), but I have to say that it was a lot more enjoyable to drive. Loads of standard equipment (sun roof, wireless phone charger, ventilated seats, blind spot warning etc, things you don't get on a base 1st here).

Not sure if I should go try another ID4 or what. At this point I am wondering if I should just cancel the order. The ID4 is on paper the superior vehicle in pretty much every way but I just... didn't really like it?
I totally understand. I felt the same way after my test drive. Was so excited but ultimately let down. The ID4 drives heavier and feels larger than I expected. But I also thought it was under powered (I’m sure the AWD will have much more zip).
I felt the same way about the Mach-E (as far as size goes, not power). I guess I’m just not into cross overs. I drove a Polestar 2 last weekend- a car that was never even on my radar- and now that’s my favorite. If they release a less expensive version of the 2 this Summer, as is the rumor, it might be game over for me and the ID4.
 

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I totally understand. I felt the same way after my test drive. Was so excited but ultimately let down. The ID4 drives heavier and feels larger than I expected. But I also thought it was under powered (I’m sure the AWD will have much more zip).
I felt the same way about the Mach-E (as far as size goes, not power). I guess I’m just not into cross overs. I drove a Polestar 2 last weekend- a car that was never even on my radar- and now that’s my favorite. If they release a less expensive version of the 2 this Summer, as is the rumor, it might be game over for me and the ID4.
The Polestar 2 is nice but not for me (coworker has one so been in it a few times). At this moment I gotta say the e-Niro, despite being an older model and on top of that a converted ICE car, is the one I've liked the most. It's CUV styled but drives like a "normal" car.
 

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Have a 1st (non-max) on order here in Sweden with the option to cancel if I don't like it.

Local dealer got one in (also non max), so took it for a spin. Well, not sure I liked it as much as I expected.

The interior was, well, ok. Plastic felt fairly cheap in several areas.

Seats were good but not great. Felt like they were lacking in side support, so you'd slide around a bit more than desired on curvy roads.

Power was good, not Tesla quick but more than enough.

I presume this had the 2.1 update but the screen still lagged now and then while swiping. Voice control felt like more of a novelty than something actually useful.

And it felt really big to drive somehow. Hard to put my finger on exactly what it is, but it felt like a pretty cumbersome vehicle despite the nimble steering.

After that I decided to test drive another e-Niro. That felt much more nimble, with seats that hug you a bit and a good bit peppier (probably partially due to Hyundai/Kia not making the pedal response "refined" so it just hits you with all the torque immediately, which can be good and bad). Definitely smaller in the back (both backseat and storage), but I have to say that it was a lot more enjoyable to drive. Loads of standard equipment (sun roof, wireless phone charger, ventilated seats, blind spot warning etc, things you don't get on a base 1st here).

Not sure if I should go try another ID4 or what. At this point I am wondering if I should just cancel the order. The ID4 is on paper the superior vehicle in pretty much every way but I just... didn't really like it?
I have to disagree, I drove one and was rather pleased by the performance and the tight feel of the vehicle. Ember you are not buying a performance car, you are buying a suv. This out drives and out handles and out performs our Tiguan sel turbo. I am definitely considering a trade.
 

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I am, but not very hopeful any will be available here in Sweden this year.
Sorry to hear that. I know that the Ioniq 5 45 edition is being marketed in many EU countries with deliveries starting this summer. The Kia 6 is very interesting. There are so many evs coming along now that it makes sense for me to wait a year.
 

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Performance aside, my first and second test drives in ID.4 were disappointing. I do not like the interior (it looks much better on photos than in person, I found). Seats were OK, but not as comfortable as I was hoping for. I do not like plastic - it seems very hard and super cheap. I liked more plastic in Golf, at least it was softer and felt rubberized. I positively despise the shifter itself. I thought it was cute and well designed when watching reviews, and having driven the car myself, I found its location counterintuitive.
When driving, power delivery is sufficient, nothing exciting, but I do not like the car sway on curves. It feels way too unstable and I caught myself stepping on the brake way too many times, feeling as if the back was fishtailing. Yes, it is a SUV, but it does not seem to drive like one. It feels to be more like a bigger van style hauler. Comparing it to (obviously, more expensive) eTron, curve stability is just underwhelming.
Braking is fine, but outside of the regen range, when you do need brakes to kick in, the rear brakes are largely lacking. It is a heavy car and front brakes do not seem to be able to stop the car very efficiently.
Since on the test drive I hit a few puddles, I noticed also under steering. Granted, it was a RWD model, so I am likely spoiled with AWD in cars I am driving. Certainly RWD will feel less safe in places where you hit lots of water or snow / ice.
After two test drives, I proceeded to cancel my ID.4 reservation and will sit tight for Q4 coming out later this year for pre-order.
 

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Yeah, I have the right to cancel right until pickup so no rush. It might be a case of too high expectations, so will go ahead and give it another go in a few days. I really like everything about it objectively, but it just didn't "click" while driving it.
It never hurts to take another test drive to get used to the car. I've done that before with other cars and it really helps in making a decision.
 

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And it felt really big to drive somehow. Hard to put my finger on exactly what it is, but it felt like a pretty cumbersome vehicle despite the nimble steering.
I noticed that too when I did my test drive on Sunday. It felt larger / less nimble than my current 2013 Toyota RAV4EV (all-electric; California USA), but the RAV4EV actually has more cargo space and is shorter too.
 

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That is what I meant by "It feels to be more like a bigger van style hauler". I drove Pacifica and ID.4 feels just like it, less slightly better acceleration and much less engine noise ;)
 

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reason it feels so big is because the dashboard is so much away from you. infotainment/car is not build around you where you feel tugged in. It's really spacious and can be a curse too for some people. Also that thick a-pillar doesnt help too.
 

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Braking is fine, but outside of the regen range, when you do need brakes to kick in, the rear brakes are largely lacking. It is a heavy car and front brakes do not seem to be able to stop the car very efficiently.
The brakes aren't lacking in performance. I think the issue is the pedal feel. A lot of reviewers have mentioned the pedal feels too soft and they need to press more aggressively than they expected.
 

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The brakes aren't lacking in performance. I think the issue is the pedal feel.
Whatever it is, I got scared quite a few times. It has been a while when I felt unsafe in a car and got me wondering what the heck is wrong with the brakes.
 

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Whatever it is, I got scared quite a few times. It has been a while when I felt unsafe in a car and got me wondering what the heck is wrong with the brakes.
Brake feel you can get used to. Weak performance is definitely a problem.
 

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I had the second test drive in a different unit because I could not believe it would be a consistent behavior. It was the same in both units, so either both of them have the same issue (unlikely) or it is as it is was designed / built. Either way, not my problem since I am off market for ID.4.
 

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Not sure if I should go try another ID4 or what. At this point I am wondering if I should just cancel the order. The ID4 is on paper the superior vehicle in pretty much every way but I just... didn't really like it?
Have you tried the ID 3? I wonder if that smaller version wouldn't feel closer to what you are looking for. Of course, the interior is going to be the same or similar so if that's not your cup of herring (sorry, my wife is Swedish so I feel I can make fish jokes).
 

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Brake feel you can get used to. Weak performance is definitely a problem.
I'd be pretty surprised if ID.4 actually has weak brake performance, as multiple independent reviews have confirmed pretty decent stopping distances.
 
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