[super]

Good read here on the growing problem of exclusive charging networks (Tesla and, now, Rivian). It’s a big problem that could hinder wider EV adoption.

No one would accept that certain gas stations could only be used by owners of certain makes, so why do we accept the same with EV charging networks?

I understand that the difference here is that, unlike gas stations, Tesla built out its own network. However, if broader EV adoption is the goal, this issue needs fixing.

The US Is Real Close to Screwing Up Electric Vehicle Charging Forever

There is no such thing as "the" EV charging network. It's a complicated patchwork of plugs and proprietary software. And unless something changes, it's only going to get worse.

www.vice.com

 

[TT97]

I think the article is a little cynical. Tesla built out their own network as there was no standards agreed upon when they started building theirs out. I don't see the networks that Rivian or Porsche are planning to really approach the size of Tesla's.

I see them as more akin to airport lounges - airlines have their own lounges as a perk for their customers but it isn't taking away from the general lounges. I don't see GM or Ford building out gas stations, why should it be up to the manufacturers to build out the charging infrastructure for everyone? We do need more government assistance to build out the infrastructure - prices for EVs have come down where they are now cost competitive (over the life of the vehicle) with ICE cars - what is keeping people at bay is the lack of infrastructure. I would be ok with government shifting subsidies to infrastructure over the $7,500 consumer federal credit.

 

[ChristophW]

I think the article is overplaying this. From what it sounds like Rivian plans to use the CCS standard, but disable other cars being charged via software. Which makes me think: Why leave money on the table? I expect they will revise their stance in due time. Their huge investment needs a decent return, and I just don't think they will be able to get enough cars onto the streets to make it work on their own.

 

[Geo]

One thing that occurs to me is that Rivian's private network keeps their vehicles away from other chargers. That means less competition for EA stalls.

 

[ErickF]

One thing that occurs to me is that Rivian's private network keeps their vehicles away from other chargers. That means less competition for EA stalls.

There won't be many of them, but they might be there a while!

 

[bluedanube]

One thing that occurs to me is that Rivian's private network keeps their vehicles away from other chargers. That means less competition for EA stalls.

Just happen to be charging next to a Rivian at EA tonight:

When I peaked at their screen it was at 92% sucking up 42kW.
I finished my 18%-80% charge before they were done.