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After picking up our ID 4 this morning from the dealer the fam wanted to go "somewhere" so the youngest girl suggested outlet mall shopping for summer clothes and everyone else agreed. We ended up going to two different shopping centers (because of course we did) and totaled 102 miles / 164 km of highway driving averaging around 65 mph / 105 kph in some very lovely 55 f / 13 c weather. Some thoughts:

  • We started with 98% charge and finished with 57% with 170 miles / 273 km of remaining range showing. That well exceeded the EPA rating in pretty normal driving conditions. VERY impressed with that. I imagine a lot of folks will beat 300 miles / 480 km in warmer weather.
  • I saw someone refer to this as a "clown car". Small on the outside and big inside and that certainly proved true for our family of five. In the back seat we had my two full grown girls and my extra-long (6'4" / 193cm) son. They fit just fine! The boy's head didn't hit the roof and he had plenty of leg room. The girls are more normal sized peoples and fit great as well. The older girl had minor foot surgery recently so we tossed grandma's old wheelchair in the cargo area it was swallowed up like a tool box in an F-150.
  • As I get more familiar w/ the screens and set up some customizations the more I like the design. It's much more geared towards being used while driving than the tablets on the Ford and Tesla (imo).
  • Once you figure out the control knob for the side mirrors they are super easy and functional. I can quickly fold the mirrors in before entering our garage which is fantastic. Love this.
  • Using Google Maps via Android Auto still provided the nav display cues on the center cockpit screen and I think even the blue ID light turn thingie worked. I was not expecting that! Very cool. We also used the car nav it was great too but of course it's a TON easier to search for destinations in Google.
  • The travel assist is brilliant. It handled everything much better than the ACC w/ lane keep in our previous Honda. It just works and with it on the miles just faded away. This is going to be a great road trip car.
  • The parking assist is great as well. Our garage spot is pretty tight so this is really helpful. You can even see the rear camera as you creep forward so you know if you've pulled in far enough so the garage door will close w/o hitting your precious.
  • The pano roof w/ shade is a huge hit w/ the family. It was great to be able to close it while parked in the sun to help keep the car from getting too warm. I would gladly take that shade in exchange for some hard plastics on the dash or door panels in areas I'll never actually touch. Thank you, VW!

Things I don't like
  • It's pretty hard to find the battery percent which is on the charing menu which is under the vehicle menu. They really need to fix this and display that info more prominently. The GOM is only as good as your recent driving and only you know what your future driving will be like. To manage range on a longer trip you need to have that info available.
  • The Hello ID voice system is crap. I remember our 2005 Prius had "voice control" and it was useless. This isn't much better. Even the things it can do and doesn't require any outside connection like adjust temps is painfully slow. In a world were Google can understand almost anything you say to it this is just bad. Fortunately, unlike my 2005 Prius, they can improve it over time.
  • Car-net is a hot mess. It's a lot worse than the UVO app for our Kia Soul EV. You don't really know if the charge and range info is correct since you can't force a refresh of the connection. You can't lock/unlock the car. There's no way to search for destinations on the app and send them to the car (Kia can do this). And I paid the $9/yr each for internet radio and "plus speech" and as far as I can tell they don't do anything. Internet radio doesn't work at all. We'll see if this just needs some time to update from the account of something. On the plus side, I was able to log in to the app and set the climate to 72f / 22 c while we were shopping. It wasn't all that warm today but it's good to know that option exists for more extreme weather.
  • The "Beef Jerky Outlet" was very expensive. Not outlet prices at all. What a shame.

UPDATED: Night driving

  • I went out on my fav short, hilly, hard country 10-mile bike loop and WOW the LED lights are great. The dynamic turning things is super cool and helpful on those kinds of roads.
  • The auto brights worked perfectly. They recognized on-coming or rear lights and if anything we tuned to shut off a tad early and conservatively so it errs on turning them off to soon then leaving them on too long. Loved this feature.
  • And of course interior, ambient lights, puddle lights, and door handle lights are all fantastic.
  • The lack of illumination on the temp and audio sliders is a real fail. You can access the climate in a variety of ways and volume controls are on the steering wheel and I'm guessing your finger will learn where to go but it really should be lit up.

And here's a classic American SUV party. I'll take the blue one every day and twice on Saturday!

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After picking up our ID 4 this morning from the dealer the fam wanted to go "somewhere" so the youngest girl suggested outlet mall shopping for summer clothes and everyone else agreed. We ended up going to two different shopping centers (because of course we did) and totaled 102 miles of highway driving averaging around 65 mph / 105 kph in some very lovely 55 f / 13 c weather. Some thoughts:

  • We started with 98% charge and finished with 57% with 170 miles / 273 km of remaining range showing. That well exceeded the EPA rating in pretty normal driving conditions. VERY impressed with that. I imagine a lot of folks will beat 300 miles / 480 km in warmer weather.
  • I saw someone refer to this as a "clown car". Small on the outside and big inside and that certainly proved true for our family of five. In the back seat we had my two full grown girls and my extra-long (6'4" / 193cm) son. They fit just fine! The boy's head didn't hit the roof and he had plenty of leg room. The girls are more normal sized peoples and fit great as well. The older girl had minor foot surgery recently so we tossed grandma's old wheelchair in the cargo area it was swallowed up like a tool box in an F-150.
  • As I get more familiar w/ the screens and set up some customizations the more I like the design. It's much more geared towards being used while driving than the tablets on the Ford and Tesla (imo).
  • Once you figure out the control knob for the side mirrors they are super easy and functional. I can quickly fold the mirrors in before entering our garage which is fantastic. Love this.
  • Using Google Maps via Android Auto still provided the nav display cues on the center cockpit screen and I think even the blue ID light turn thingie worked. I was not expecting that! Very cool. We also used the car nav it was great too but of course it's a TON easier to search for destinations in Google.
  • The travel assist is brilliant. It handled everything much better than the ACC w/ lane keep in our previous Honda. It just works and with it on the miles just faded away. This is going to be a great road trip car.
  • The parking assist is great as well. Our garage spot is pretty tight so this is really helpful. You can even see the rear camera as you creep forward so you know if you've pulled in far enough so the garage door will close w/o hitting your precious.
  • The pano roof w/ shade is a huge hit w/ the family. It was great to be able to close it while parked in the sun to help keep the car from getting too warm. I would gladly take that shade in exchange for some hard plastics on the dash or door panels in areas I'll never actually touch. Thank you, VW!

Things I don't like
  • It's pretty hard to find the battery percent which is on the charing menu which is under the vehicle menu. They really need to fix this and display that info more prominently. The GOM is only as good as your recent driving and only you know what your future driving will be like. To manage range on a longer trip you need to have that info available.
  • The Hello ID voice system is crap. I remember our 2005 Prius had "voice control" and it was useless. This isn't much better. Even the things it can do and doesn't require any outside connection like adjust temps is painfully slow. In a world were Google can understand almost anything you say to it this is just bad. Fortunately, unlike my 2005 Prius, they can improve it over time.
  • Car-net is a hot mess. It's a lot worse than the UVO app for our Kia Soul EV. You don't really know if the charge and range info is correct since you can't force a refresh of the connection. You can't lock/unlock the car. There's no way to search for destinations on the app and send them to the car (Kia can do this). And I paid the $9/yr each for internet radio and "plus speech" and as far as I can tell they don't do anything. Internet radio doesn't work at all. We'll see if this just needs some time to update from the account of something. On the plus side, I was able to log in to the app and set the climate to 72f / 22 c while we were shopping. It wasn't all that warm today but it's good to know that option exists for more extreme weather.
  • The "Beef Jerky Outlet" was very expensive. Not outlet prices at all. What a shame.

And here's a classic American SUV party. I'll take the blue one every day and twice on Saturday!

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Thanks for posting and congrats on what sounds like a fun first road trip! Would love to hear your thoughts on road noise and wind noise, also based on different road surfaces! Thanks in advance.
 

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Thanks for posting and congrats on what sounds like a fun first road trip! Would love to hear your thoughts on road noise and wind noise, also based on different road surfaces! Thanks in advance.
Thanks! I paid attn to this b/c in my prior test drives I thought it was very quiet and others didn't think so. I'm guessing this comes down to your reference point. This will be the best and most expensive car I've owned and doesn't compare at all to our Kia Soul EV...which is very nice to drive. So for me, the ID 4 is quiet on both wind and road noise. But paying attn to it today I could hear some but I had to "look" for it. It didn't come close to distracting me from convos or music. If you are coming from a very nice car that's very quiet and compliant this probably isn't as good as that.

As part of a very long buying process I drove Ford Escape and Toyota RAV 4 hybrids along with Bolt, i3, Kona EV and NiroEV and while we can argue over Model Y and Mach-e as comps (and I think it's all personal preferences between them) there's no question that the ID 4 blows those ICE / Hybrids out of the water.
 

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@sethpo thank you so much for commenting on the night time headlight performance, no one has mentioned that at all yet! Glad to hear the cornering function works well and that the auto high beams seem tuned well, I've definitely test driven some cases where the auto high beams didn't work very well at all.
 

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Your comments about Car-Net are interesting, because I can do most of the things you can’t do with your ID.4 (e.g., lock/unlock, nav destinations) with my 2020 Jetta. Weird.
 

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From a UK Prospective .... I've now (over two days) ... clocked up just over 200 miles in my Metallic Manganese Grey ID.4

The Good
  • Great to drive, smooth pull-aways
  • Been tying out "B mode" Regenerative breaking, I'm getting better/smoother at gentle pull-aways, slow-downs
  • Getting about 2.9miles / KwH (mix of town and Motorway Driving)
  • Audio System Great (DAB+ Radio, Via Bluetooth Phone and playing MP3's from memory stick), although it took some time to discover how seek through the tracks
  • Space inside (compared to my Golf Estate) is vast, feels a very wide car, back passengers have plenty of room, and the boot/trunk is a good size (not as long as the Estate, but deeper)
  • Sampled Rapid Charging on a Pod-Point Rapid-Charger, CCS works perfectly
  • Home Ohme Charger for over-night/home charging works well (glad it has smart features to monitor the charging, as the VW ID App is poor/bad!)
  • Reversing Camera etc - quality is very good, will have to see what it's like in the dark
  • The Speed recognition Nav/Camera is great, when passing speed signs the car can be set to "ping" up warnings if you exceed the speed limit (we have alot of cameras in the UK) it even "read's" temporary speed signs and signs at road-works and displays warnings.

Nice Touches
  • The ID light that is at the base of the windscreen (I thought would be a gimmick), I actually like
  • (Sad I know) but I also like the ability to change the colour(s) of the interior trim LED strip
  • The Keyless ignition, just getting into the car with the key in your pocket make for "fast get aways"
  • I wasn't sure about the size of the small Speed/Info Display, but it's actually perfect - just the "essential" information you need, ideally positioned
  • I like the Green/Blue (Energy/Re-Gen Light) below the battery indicator, need to see if I can "eak" out more miles from the battery by monitoring this more
  • The Puddle Lights (I didn't even know it had them) ...

Next Steps
  • I need to figure out / set up my Android Auto Fully
  • I want to play around with screen customisations on the infotainment system
  • Need to purchase a Grannie charger / Cable (for occasional / emergency use)
  • Consider a boot / load-liner (as I use my car for work/travelling alot) and want to protect the carpet
  • Need to do some night driving to see how effective the Auto Main-beam headlights are (if they are as good as the Golf)

The Bad
  • (As Sethpo said), the ID Voice Feature is useless / beyond bad, I think I'm going to de-activate it !
  • The VW Remote app is unreliable, incorrect charging stats etc (better to just use the Ohme's smart features)
 

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  • (As Sethpo said), the ID Voice Feature is useless / beyond bad, I think I'm going to de-activate it !
  • The VW Remote app is unreliable, incorrect charging stats etc (better to just use the Ohme's smart features)
There is a CarNet add-on for 9$/year to add natural lanuage to ID Voice. Since it is only 9$, I am kind of tempted to try it, but I wanted to experiment with the car first to get a better feel for the capabilities of the car as-is.
 

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Oh that is weird. I wonder if I'm doing something wrong? Wrong app? I'll have to dig into a bit.
I can’t imagine how you’d be doing anything wrong. I mean, for my Jetta I just added the vehicle and everything appeared. Does the ID.4 screen in the app look different than this?

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Yeah, quite different
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I can scroll down, and it also shows nearby L2 chargers. But I don't see a way to unlock the car or send any directions to the car. I haven't bought any add-ons to CarNet yet - this is essentially the "default" state.

It honestly doesn't bug me that much - my experience with the Kona was that the majority of the BlueLink usage was to check charge level and precondition climate before leaving. And I seem to have that ability with what I have.
 

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Yeah, quite different
Yup. That's what I have. I'll probably call Car-net support on Monday if the internet radio isn't working. It also looks like you need to pay Verizon the monthly data fee to be able to use the internet radio and plus speech. Everyone already has unlimited data on their phones so the whole "hot spot" thing isn't needed and I don't see paying $20mo for data just to use those two features. I can just stream Spotify or other things via Android Auto or use Sirius XM. We'll see how this plays out but hopefully can-net is something that gets improved soon.
 

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Yup. That's what I have. I'll probably call Car-net support on Monday if the internet radio isn't working. It also looks like you need to pay Verizon the monthly data fee to be able to use the internet radio and plus speech. Everyone already has unlimited data on their phones so the whole "hot spot" thing isn't needed and I don't see paying $20mo for data just to use those two features. I can just stream Spotify or other things via Android Auto or use Sirius XM. We'll see how this plays out but hopefully can-net is something that gets improved soon.
We already have Verizon for our cellphones - if there is something to be done on that end, it may be possible to just add it to our plan instead of paying an extra bill.

We tend to use Sirius, so internet radio isn't of interest to us. And I agree about the hotspot thing - that doesn't seem of much use.
 

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Yup. That's what I have. I'll probably call Car-net support on Monday if the internet radio isn't working. It also looks like you need to pay Verizon the monthly data fee to be able to use the internet radio and plus speech. Everyone already has unlimited data on their phones so the whole "hot spot" thing isn't needed and I don't see paying $20mo for data just to use those two features. I can just stream Spotify or other things via Android Auto or use Sirius XM. We'll see how this plays out but hopefully can-net is something that gets improved soon.
I will be very interested in your findings on this. I have zero interest in buying a Verizon data plan, since I am a current ATT customer. I suspect this tiering of products is requisite and sucks. Map updates will be an issue because of this, I suspect. Anyone else have this figured out yet?
 

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I can add most car networks, with their own cellphone chip/number, to my AT&T account for $10 per month. I had to do this with my Audi after the free period expired to continue to get a Google Map cellular Nav overlay (which was Audi-Google cancelled the end of last year anyway). So I'll just rely on my iPhone.
As you're probably aware the cellphone pad in the front console is an antenna range extender as well as a recharger. The latter works quite well btw on phones that have this capability.
 
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