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Until recently, we owned 2 Chevy Bolts. We sold one and purchased the ID.4. We love our Bolts and had no issues with them. However, the most recent recalls and GMs handling of the issue forced me to look elsewhere. I'm hoping the ID.4 can provide us the same enjoyment we had with our Bolts.
 

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Really liked my 2017 Bolt Premier. Really love my ID.4 FE. Quieter, more comfortable ride for all passengers, more solid car.
 

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I wasn't looking for another brand of EV until GM announced the updates on the 2022 models of EV and EUV. I can't get my head around why they redesigned especially the back end with the brake lights now lower. Even then, I was thinking of at least updating to the newer model because of the battery issue, which I never personally experienced.

My mind really changed when I went into the local dealership and asked if they were offering any incentives for early adopters (mine was a 2017) and they said no. The manager actually told me I would be better off selling it back to GM. So, I called the Chevy Concierge about the buyback. A month later, they gave me a check for $7660 less than what I originally paid for it.

In the meantime, I started seeing all the hoopla over the ID.4. The more I looked, the more I wanted one. I put my reservation in directly to the factory but because the delivery date was so far out, I started visiting the local dealership asking them to watch for a Moonstone Gray ID.4 Pro S which seemed a little illusive in Washington State.

Finally, on my fourth or fifth visit, the sales manager found one in Oregon! He printed out the sticker and I immediately called to see if it was available. It was and within the week I was a proud owner of my ID.4!
 

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I leased a Bolt in June 2017. I wanted an EV and, at that time, the Tesla Model S was too expensive and too large and, except for the Bolt, affordable EVs had a pathetically low range. I liked the Bolt: quick, reasonably good handling and a good size for my needs. Dislikes: the lack of adaptive cruise control, the way the infotainment screen washed out in sunlight, and my car's lack of the DC (not very) fast charging option. I leased the car, rather than buying, because I thought the technology would advance in a few years and I wanted to be able to turn in a leased car without worrying about its value. As the end of my lease approached, I shopped all the EVs and decided to get an ID.3. (You know how that ended.) I grudgingly settled on the ID.4 and got on the waiting list on day one. When the FE arrived, I realized I actually preferred the generous size (compared to the Bolt).
 

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A 2019 Bolt was our first full EV. It was initially my wife's commuter car to get back and forth to work, and what we used on the weekends to get around town. During covid (working from home) it became the car we used for everything.

That experience proved to us we could be an EV only household so we just picked up an ID.4 PRO S, and Carvana is stopping by this weekend to haul away my old CRV. :)

Still do enjoy the Bolt, it's definitely got more zip than the ID.4 but the VW is such a nice car all around.
 

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As I expected its hitting the fan today in Bolt-ville. Happy to have left the circus.
If I owned an affected Bolt and this happened yet again, I'd get rid of it, period. Don't charge it unattended? Don't park the charged car in the garage? The new state of the art battery management software didn't fix the issue? Forget it, I'd be out.
 

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Here's the thing for me.

The chance of this happening to any specific Bolt is probably 1 in 5000 (my estimate based on total unit sales and number of reported incidents). Some will say that's acceptable risk.

But I'd be thinking about it every time I'm charging the car or parking it in the garage. There wouldn't be any way for me to avoid thinking about it. Is today when it happens to me? Probably not. But I don't want that doubt ever popping into my head.

My ability to just enjoy the car would be seriously compromised.
 

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Yep I was there, not sleeping at night. THEN tell you ev skeptical wife the situation and be prepared for an earful. Goodbye Bolt.
 

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I’m seeing that most Bolts will have at least some battery modules replaced. Yikes.
 

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I’m seeing that most Bolts will have at least some battery modules replaced. Yikes.
Friend of mine and his wife have a 2017 Bolt. They are steadfastly unconcerned about this issue because being concerned about it would be counterproductive. That's just how they are. "It's so unlikely to happen to us, why even think about it?" They're hopeful they'll get a new battery and everything will be fine. Dumping the Bolt isn't something they would even consider because they drive their cars for 8-10 years and that's that. They can EASILY financially afford to move into something else but their mindset just won't go that direction.

I am not dumping on Bolts either. But the latest development would be the last straw for me.
 

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Friend of mine and his wife have a 2017 Bolt. They are steadfastly unconcerned about this issue because being concerned about it would be counterproductive. That's just how they are. "It's so unlikely to happen to us, why even think about it?" They're hopeful they'll get a new battery and everything will be fine. Dumping the Bolt isn't something they would even consider because they drive their cars for 8-10 years and that's that. They can EASILY financially afford to move into something else but their mindset just won't go that direction.

I am not dumping on Bolts either. But the latest development would be the last straw for me.
I am still in my 18 Bolt. I am not overly concerned, the problem is primarily impacting cells made in mid-late 18 that went early 19 model year Bolts. When my recall update was performed last month, cell variances were well within the voltage variances that supposedly indicate weak cells, indicating mine is a healthy pack. That update was available to 1H 2019 models a month before the older ones, so they seem to be finding a pattern related to time and are less concerned about older models.

Problem is, LG is a strategic partner for GM, and two fires that might have been unrelated occurred in 2017 models. So the net was cast wide as they narrowed the search. Last thing they want to do is point fingers at their strategic partner. Unfortunately, that wide net increases fear among a larger population, but also leaves it to interpretation where blame lies.

The latest development seems to be that a second rare defect was identified, it had not been identified previously. So, apparently they think that diagnostics can be used to identify suspect groups of cells, flag those for section replacements, and be fixed. There may be no, or limited impact on older models.

Nonetheless, I am scoping out replacements in case they make buybacks super attractive. ID4 is #1 on my list. So I am here to learn. I may make the switch regardless, once dust settles on the whole thing and resale prices stabilize.

GM is quite confident the 2H 2019 and later cells are not prone to these defects, which should be comforting to VW owners as LG is a common supplier if I understand correctly, and no doubt VW benefits from what LG learned from the GM partnership.
 

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Nonetheless, I am scoping out replacements in case they make buybacks super attractive. ID4 is #1 on my list. So I am here to learn. I may make the switch regardless, once dust settles on the whole thing and resale prices stabilize.
At first, I was all in for staying the course with my 2017 Bolt. Then I was thinking of trading up to one of the 2022 models. They ruined that idea with the changes to the body. I hate that they moved the brake lights lower.

What finally put me on track to get the ID.4 is when I questioned the sales guys at the Chevy dealership about incentives. Basically, they offered nothing and actually told me I'd be better off doing the buyback.

Well, that's what I ended up doing and I'm not disappointed with making that choice.
 

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I'm glad I went with the GM buyback for my 2017 Bolt LT when I did. I got approved for the buyback just as an ID.4 Pro S in the color I wanted became available from a local dealer, so I jumped on that, also just in time for our road trip to California. Couldn't be happier with my decision. The Bolt was a great gateway drug for going all EV. But ultimately the ID.4 is an infinitely better built and designed vehicle. The one thing I must say I miss from my Bolt is the ability to take a granular look at energy consumption and get a detailed sense of how driving style and terrain are impacting energy levels on a particular trip. That would be neat to have in the ID.
 
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