[tiffbobby]

I asked the same question and the response was that he could not take a wheel and tire off a new vehicle,It would make that vehicle a used vehicle. That reply sounded rather hokey to me, but in any case that was the issue. I did drive to other ID fours with different tires and they didn’t make the same harmonic noise.

 

[MR. Ed of course]

Met "Rick" two weeks ago at an EA station in Tampa. His 2021 ID.4 had the original Hankook tires with over 70k miles on them. They looked pretty worn, but still had enough tread to handle slightly wet pavement. YMMV.

 

[nigela]

I asked the same question and the response was that he could not take a wheel and tire off a new vehicle,It would make that vehicle a used vehicle. That reply sounded rather hokey to me, but in any case that was the issue. I did drive to other ID fours with different tires and they didn’t make the same harmonic noise.

Nah, they have loaner and test cars available.

 

[Ostrovit]

and why should the warranty on tires for an electric car be half as much? I don't understand

 

[SunWizard]

and why should the warranty on tires for an electric car be half as much? I don't understand

Its not due to being EV, its due to staggered (wider in back) so you cannot rotate them, which increases the lifespan.

 

[MR. Ed of course]

Its not due to being EV, its due to staggered (wider in back) so you cannot rotate them, which increases the lifespan.

I think you meant DECREASES their life span. Although they cannot be rotated, they can be swapped left to right. YMMV.

 

[SunWizard]

I think you meant DECREASES their life span. Although they cannot be rotated, they can be swapped left to right. YMMV.

No, rotating the tires front to back increases the lifespan of the set.

 

[MR. Ed of course]

No, rotating the tires front to back increases the lifespan of the set.

Ok, I misunderstood your phrasing. It read as if rotating did not increase tire life. I agree, if one can rotate, tires will last longer, especially if the also get swapped left to right.

 

[pezzy668]

I was got the Michelin Defenders a couple of days ago after my Hankooks barely survived to 26K miles. I know my new tires are supposed to be warranted for 70K but that's apparently cut in half for EVs since you can only rotate them side to side.

Double check the Michelin warranty. I dug through the warranty guide and at least on the CrossClimate2's it only cuts the warranty in half on the rear, fronts still get the full warranty.

 

[themartygriffin]

I don't see 255/50R19, but they have 235/50R20 and 255/45R20.

...so you can do a square setup with the 235/55 if you have 19" wheels, or staggered if you have 20".

Does VW advise against a square set up? It not why is it staggered in the first place?

 

[waldo22]

I believe it's to compensate for understeer or something like that. Keeps it from fishtailing when cornering at high speed. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm not afraid to do a 235 mm square set up, but I decided to stick with staggered with my 18-in wheels since I was able to with the Pirelli all season plus three tires, so 235/60R18 in front and 255/55R18 in rear.

235/60R18 all around is standard in Europe for winter tires, so it's definitely not discouraged, just not standard from the factory.

 

[SunWizard]

I believe it's to compensate for understeer or something like that. Keeps it from fishtailing when cornering at high speed. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Wider in back would not help correct understeer. I think its to get the towing ratings higher, since towing can exert much more sideways force on the rear of the car, which would cause fishtailing.

 

[deepskier]

Hm, went digging for the materials included in purchase of vehicle… couldn’t find them. I seem to be wrong about the advertising, though I do recall some forum members saying they found foam and couldn’t patch/plug a tire. Thanks for correcting!

The Pirelli Scorpion Zero A/S do NOT have foam, I ordered from tire rack and had them in the garage for a little while before install. Just plain rubber.

Do you have the scorpion zero all season (marked "Elect") on the sidewall? They are supposed to have the foam

Scorpion Zero All Season tires price | Pirelli

Pirelli Scorpion Zero All Season: a tire with maximum performance in all driving conditions. Buy now!

www.pirelli.com

There is also the scorpion AS plus 3 which is popular, but does not have the foam.

Scorpion All Season Plus 3 tires price | Pirelli

Scorpion All Season Plus 3, the new touring tire for crossovers, sport utility vehicles, and pick-up trucks

www.pirelli.com

 

[Pfrancis24]

No foam (Scorpion AS Plus 3)

 

[Mike Bouck]

No foam (Scorpion AS Plus 3)

I have the Scorpion AS Plus 3s and they're great. No complaints and they're way better than the stock Alenzas. In mostly dry conditions I think the Scorpions are the better choice - for snow/ice I'd go Michelin CC2.

Michelin Cross Climate 2 vs Pirelli Scorpion AS Plus 3

In depth analysis of Michelin Cross Climate 2 vs Pirelli Scorpion AS Plus 3 with wet, dry, nosie/comfort, snow, ice, wear & price evaluated.

toptirereview.com

 

[Pfrancis24]

My experience with Scorpion AS Plus 3 tires is also very positive overall, have about 15k on them and they are holding up well so far.

 

[Higgs_Moron]

So have the option of choosing hankook kinergy AS EH01A vs pirelli scorpion zero AS vs continental Pro contact RX as the dealer is running but 3 get 4th for 1$ promo on these. Dealer website mentions only the continental gets a 65k miles warranty though do no know the fine print on that. Which one should I go with and why if anyone has experience with these tires? I was gonna go with the defenders but for the deal.

 

[SunWizard]

Pirelli Scorpion AS Plus 3 has 6 Years / 70,000 Miles warranty but Half mileage for rear if different size than front, and at $898 for 4 at discount tire may be less than the dealer:

https://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-100...Volkswagen&autoYear=2021&autoModel=ID.4&autoModClar=&tab=Warranty#TabbedPanels2

Most of the brands warranty is cut in half when staggered.

 

[Higgs_Moron]

Thanks, dealer website does mention price match. I'll try to get them to honor it while availing 4/3 deal. Will post back the result 😜

 

[SunWizard]

Thanks, dealer website does mention price match. I'll try to get them to honor it while availing 4/3 deal. Will post back the result 😜

They likely sell only the pirelli scorpion zero AS since those are OE, more expensive than the AS plus 3 I linked, and no warranty.

https://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-100...&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Volkswagen&autoYear=2021&autoModel=ID.4&autoModClar=

You don't say if yours are 19 or 20". The OE 20s are $410 higher price:

https://www.anrdoezrs.net/click-100...&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Volkswagen&autoYear=2021&autoModel=ID.4&autoModClar=