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For anyone that will be test driving the ID.4 soon, can you please check if the US model has an Auto Hold Function? We know it's available in EU cars, but no review in US has confirmed it is available here and most reviewers complain the car creeps at stops.

Here's how you enable the feature based off EU manual:

Switching Auto Hold feature 'On'
— Open the vehicle settings in the Infotainment system
— Open the Vehicle menu.
— Open the Exterior menu.
— Open the Brakes menu.
— Switch on the Auto Hold function.


Manual Description of feature, after switching on:
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For anyone that will be test driving the ID.4 soon, can you please check if the US model has an Auto Hold Function? We know it's available in EU cars, but no review in US has confirmed it is available here and most reviewers complain the car creeps at stops.

Here's how you enable the feature based off EU manual:

Switching Auto Hold feature 'On'
— Open the vehicle settings in the Infotainment system
— Open the Vehicle menu.
— Open the Exterior menu.
— Open the Brakes menu.
— Switch on the Auto Hold function.


Manual Description of feature, after switching on:
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I test drove it today. No auto hold and no plans for it.
 

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I test drove it today. No auto hold and no plans for it.
They said they had no plans to enable the option that's already in the European version? I really don't understand VoA. No heat pump, no auto hold. It's like they still live in a different era.
 

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They said they had no plans to enable the option that's already in the European version? I really don't understand VoA. No heat pump, no auto hold. It's like they still live in a different era.
While not happy about the heat pump, at least I understand the cost "savings" reasons behind that (and HUD). Adding Auto Hold has no additional cost (at least it is something that can be added via software updates along with option for "one pedal driving").
 

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While not happy about the heat pump, at least I understand the cost "savings" reasons behind that (and HUD). Adding Auto Hold has no additional cost (at least it is something that can be added via software updates along with option for "one pedal driving").
In Battery Life's 2.1 YouTube live stream today, Chris mentioned that he had spoken about one-pedal driving with VW executives and they had told him it would not be added. He has an ID.3, but their reasoning about rear wheel drive (comments in the video) would also apply to ID.4. Might be something overcome by AWD.
 

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In Battery Life's 2.1 YouTube live stream today, Chris mentioned that he had spoken about one-pedal driving with VW executives and they had told him it would not be added. He has an ID.3, but their reasoning about rear wheel drive (comments in the video) would also apply to ID.4. Might be something overcome by AWD.
What was the reasoning?>
 

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Sounded like oversteer.
 

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Sounded like oversteer.
I just found it in the video, it starts at 37:48 mark. I don't buy the reasoning. First, you can still have one pedal driving without adding more regen which "B" mode has already - it just needs to regen down to zero mph. The regen also felt much milder than my car which is also RWD (it is closer to the "low" setting on Teslas) - if it is snow or icy conditions he is referring to, even the mild regen can cause oversteering.
 

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so its true, US-Spec doesnt have Auto-Hold. Does other VW cars also missing auto-hold? or even other car manacturers? If so, its an US regulation thing?
 

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so its true, US-Spec doesnt have Auto-Hold. Does other VW cars also missing auto-hold? or even other car manacturers? If so, its an US regulation thing?
Tesla and MB have for sure so not a regulation issue. My wife's Subaru doesn't have it so she will not miss it when she gets the ID.4.
 

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Man wt actual f. I really cannot comprehend any logical reasoning behind not having auto hold in the US when the car does have it overseas, and plenty of other cars have it in the US, so we know it's not a regulatory thing. I absolutely loathe creep, so that's a pretty big downside for me. I was disappointed about no proper 1 pedal driving mode, but I could learn to be ok with that with auto hold present, but now neither feature is present? Ugh. I really hope VW wise up and add some of these things in with OTA updates sooner than later. I'll still keep my reservation because the ID.4 still checks more of my personal boxes than other options but ugh.

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Thanks. Just confirming...you looked for setting and/or asked about the feature with the VoA team present at event?
Yes. In all fairness I didn’t get the impression the people operating the test drives were experts. But I went deep inside the system to the point where I was making the guy nervous.
 

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Auto Hold? Why would you need this? My leg works just fine on the brake pedal to hold the car still.
lol. It’s an option that is nice to have in electric cars. Especially in stop and go traffic. they have to program in A forced roll to have the “feel” of a ICE car. to me it is dumbing down the car instead of moving forward with technology (pun intended) 😃
 

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Most people coming from ICE vehicles will likely appreciate the lack of 1-pedal driving and the addition of creep when letting off the brake pedal, for one simple reason: it mimics an ICE automatic vehicle. It's what they're used to, it eliminates any kind of adjustment to driving the ID.4. I like 1-pedal driving, thoroughly enjoyed it in my i3. My husband doesn't like it, at all, because he doesn't like that you constantly have to have your foot on the accelerator pedal. For the masses, having to use the brake pedal to slow the vehicle down is quite intuitive as it's something they already have to do with ICE vehicles. Heck, most people I know don't even use cruise control, and when I talk to them about autopilot (or VW's Travel Assist) they freak out. The masses aren't ready for actual autopilot.
 

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lol. It’s an option that is nice to have in electric cars. Especially in stop and go traffic. they have to program in A forced roll to have the “feel” of a ICE car. to me it is dumbing down the car instead of moving forward with technology (pun intended) 😃
Yeah, I get it, but boy we are taking all of the "feel" out of driving! I'll take my ID.4 without driving aids thank you! (old school, I know...)
 

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Most people coming from ICE vehicles will likely appreciate the lack of 1-pedal driving and the addition of creep when letting off the brake pedal, for one simple reason: it mimics an ICE automatic vehicle. It's what they're used to, it eliminates any kind of adjustment to driving the ID.4. I like 1-pedal driving, thoroughly enjoyed it in my i3. My husband doesn't like it, at all, because he doesn't like that you constantly have to have your foot on the accelerator pedal. For the masses, having to use the brake pedal to slow the vehicle down is quite intuitive as it's something they already have to do with ICE vehicles. Heck, most people I know don't even use cruise control, and when I talk to them about autopilot (or VW's Travel Assist) they freak out. The masses aren't ready for actual autopilot.
If only they had some sort of center screen where you can choose the option to turn on/off one pedal driving or creep. It's like saying the HVAC (or "Clima") can only be set to 72° because they decided people are comfortable at that temperature.
 

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Most people coming from ICE vehicles will likely appreciate the lack of 1-pedal driving and the addition of creep when letting off the brake pedal, for one simple reason: it mimics an ICE automatic vehicle. It's what they're used to, it eliminates any kind of adjustment to driving the ID.4. I like 1-pedal driving, thoroughly enjoyed it in my i3. My husband doesn't like it, at all, because he doesn't like that you constantly have to have your foot on the accelerator pedal. For the masses, having to use the brake pedal to slow the vehicle down is quite intuitive as it's something they already have to do with ICE vehicles. Heck, most people I know don't even use cruise control, and when I talk to them about autopilot (or VW's Travel Assist) they freak out. The masses aren't ready for actual autopilot.
Sure, I agree with that. But ... it would be nice to give people the option of kicking off the training wheels. Its only software.
 
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