WRT eTron: $55K before TC makes for a very compelling deal. For a extra $10K over the price of an undiscounted ID.4 FE, one gets ALL of the "wanna haves" people are talking about here on this forum: including heat pump, surround view, HUD, AWD, one size larger and the Audi label with the super luxury interiors that Audi is justly famous for. The disadvantage of a car that is in it's second year of production is largely offset by the price. Plus, the ID.4 FE is likely to see at least as large a 3-yr depreciation as the eTron because both will have the same range when EV's in 3 years will be marketing much longer ranges. I'll have a long look at eTron deals at the time the AWD Pro shows up and if I can score a similar deal, it will be hard to pass up. Particularly as the Q4 eTron is unlikely to be seeing any discounts on introduction.