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My 2019 e-Golf SEL Premium had a heat pump. I was always under the impression that it could scavenge some small amount of waste heat from the drive motor and other sources. This report confirms that.
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"The e-Golf SEL Premium model we have employs a heat-pump setup. While it helps with cooling as well, it has the larger impact on heating, where it helps recover heat from the ambient air and waste heat from the battery pack and drivetrain components."
Does the ID.4 heat pump not scavenge any waste heat at all? EDIT: Or is that description of the e-Golf heat pump system's ability to scavenge waste heat incorrect?
Volkswagen e-Golf Climate Control: How Much Does A/C Impact Range?
In Portland, Oregon, where we’re putting our long-term Volkswagen e-Golf to the test, it’s been one of the hottest summers on record. So far in the summer of 2015, Portland has had more than 25 days reaching 90 degrees or more, as well as multiple 100-degree days—in all, some serious heatwaves...
"The e-Golf SEL Premium model we have employs a heat-pump setup. While it helps with cooling as well, it has the larger impact on heating, where it helps recover heat from the ambient air and waste heat from the battery pack and drivetrain components."
Does the ID.4 heat pump not scavenge any waste heat at all? EDIT: Or is that description of the e-Golf heat pump system's ability to scavenge waste heat incorrect?
We still have our 2018 SEL Premium. It's awesome in pretty much every way, except for long road tripping. So fun to drive. Rock-solid reliable as well.Not relevant to the thread, but I REALLY wish I’d kept that e-Golf. Only had it for a year but it was the perfect urban EV. Never had a single problem or complaint. It was a very impressive first effort from VW.
Exactly. Not really suitable for road trips, but great in most other respects. I have read accounts of road trips in an e-Golf though. It can be done, but you better be really good at planning your stops, and not be in any hurry to reach your destination.
Before we got the ID.4, we did a few mini road trips from the Boston area around New England, no more than 250 miles in a day. But you’re correct: it took planning, and you can’t be in a hurry.Exactly. Not really suitable for road trips, but great in most other respects. I have read accounts of road trips in an e-Golf though. It can be done, but you better be really good at planning your stops, and not be in any hurry to reach your destination.
I think it taught me what to expect with road tripping in an EV, and got us out of the “ICE mind” road trip mentality, to chill out and relax when road tripping. The ID.4 seems so much easier now in comparison.
Not relevant to the thread, but I REALLY wish I’d kept that e-Golf. Only had it for a year but it was the perfect urban EV. Never had a single problem or complaint. It was a very impressive first effort from VW.
Count me as one still missing my '16 e-Golf SE (no heat pump). Only one warranty repair was the horn shorted out, the backup camera wouldn't activate randomly but it was not easily reproducible so I just dealt with it. I traded it with either 68k or 70k miles and it was still solid and looked and drove like a new car. I have seen it roaming around about ½ dozen times (it has a very distinctive Wolfsburg crest decorative front plate that was not removed after I traded it) as new owner must live in a nearby neighborhood, I smile every time I see it knowing it was a very good car to me for ~3 years and hoping its treating its new owner just as well. Now the bad that made me trade - winter range was abysmal (maybe 40-45 miles) because of no heat pump and the smaller 2015-2016 battery.
ID.4 Heat Pump with R-744 Tell Tale
R-744 Refrigerant sticker on the driver-side hood trailing edge above the heated windshield washer line
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