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MLopez
I can't wait for the ID4 here in Southern California!
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MBrandenburg said:
I can't wait for the ID4 here in Southern California!
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Welcome to the forum @MBrandenburg ! Looks like we might still be waiting a while in North America. Nice to see the car is in production now though.

Are you a VW owner now?
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CJamie
Welcome @MBrandenburg! Have you owned EVs before or is the ID.4 going to be your first one?
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MLopez
Yes, I currently have a 2017 e-golf. I have really enjoyed switching to electric, but this car just doesn't have enough range. I've got my charger in the garage ready to go for when the ID4 is released!
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MBrandenburg said:
Yes, I currently have a 2017 e-golf. I have really enjoyed switching to electric, but this car just doesn't have enough range. I've got my charger in the garage ready to go for when the ID4 is released!
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Nice you're one step ahead of a lot of us for the ID.4 haha. Are you planning on getting the 77 kWh battery? Assuming it's the same as the ID.3.
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eVDub
Welcome @MBrandenburg are you considering any other EV's? Tesla Model Y?
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I guess I'll have to see what the price points are for the batteries they offer. I got the e-golf new with a 3 year lease that's up in January, so I may have to extend the lease or buy it out since it's not likely we'll have the IDs in the states by then. I did look at Model Y and it's a gorgeous car, but I'm seeing a lot of quality complaints. I trust VW's history and track record more, though any new car right off the line is at risk for some initial bugs.
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eVDub
MBrandenburg said:
I guess I'll have to see what the price points are for the batteries they offer. I got the e-golf new with a 3 year lease that's up in January, so I may have to extend the lease or buy it out since it's not likely we'll have the IDs in the states by then. I did look at Model Y and it's a gorgeous car, but I'm seeing a lot of quality complaints. I trust VW's history and track record more, though any new car right off the line is at risk for some initial bugs.
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I noticed all those Model Y quality reports as well going back months ago. Its terrible, and looking into it again it seems like we'll have to wait unreasonably long for real fixes to happen. Have you at least seem them in person yet?

One of the latest reports:
insideevs.com

Turns Out Tesla Model Y Quality Issues May Not Be Going Away

While some people are talking about rampant Model Y quality issues, others are calling them one-off concerns. It seems Tesla needs to focus on consistency.
insideevs.com insideevs.com

I guess its no surprise that Tesla ranked the worst among all automakers in a quality study earlier this year, meanwhile Volkswagen is where most us should be happy enough with...
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eVDub said:
I noticed all those Model Y quality reports as well going back months ago. Its terrible, and looking into it again it seems like we'll have to wait unreasonably long for real fixes to happen. Have you at least seem them in person yet?

One of the latest reports:
insideevs.com

Turns Out Tesla Model Y Quality Issues May Not Be Going Away

While some people are talking about rampant Model Y quality issues, others are calling them one-off concerns. It seems Tesla needs to focus on consistency.
insideevs.com insideevs.com

I guess its no surprise that Tesla ranked the worst among all automakers in a quality study earlier this year, meanwhile Volkswagen is where most us should be happy enough with...
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I saw that study when it came out and while I knew they had issues, I was surprised to see them dead last. I haven't gone to drive one in person. Pre-pandemic I loved test driving cars on the weekends but it's been a while since that was an option. Most recently I saw reports that the Model Y doors fill up with water... no thanks!
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MBrandenburg said:
I saw that study when it came out and while I knew they had issues, I was surprised to see them dead last. I haven't gone to drive one in person. Pre-pandemic I loved test driving cars on the weekends but it's been a while since that was an option. Most recently I saw reports that the Model Y doors fill up with water... no thanks!
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Lucky for us, ID.3 build quality reports don't point out anything that would be a deal breaker.

From AutoCar Magazine - Although the build quality is up to the high standard we expect from VW, the materials are not. There are some agreeable slush-moulded plastic elements atop the dashboard but there is also a lot of hard plastic throughout the cabin. It is a clear cost-cutting move used to help offset the high costs of the battery.

I can live with materials not being up to par and things along those lines.
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MLopez
I can deal with some cheap plastic interior. If it bugs me too much I'll check out Audi Q4 e-tron instead. What I really wanted was the Porsche Macan electric originally slated for 2021, but it's been pushed back quite a ways.
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MBrandenburg said:
I can deal with some cheap plastic interior. If it bugs me too much I'll check out Audi Q4 e-tron instead. What I really wanted was the Porsche Macan electric originally slated for 2021, but it's been pushed back quite a ways.
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The electric Macan should be an impressive SUV whenever it does come out. They've already done some incredible stuff with the Taycan and for the rest of VW Group.
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MLopez
I just hope they don't change the body style too much. I liked the last generation even more than the current one.
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MBrandenburg said:
I just hope they don't change the body style too much. I liked the last generation even more than the current one.
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My guess is the focus will be on performance and the underbody rather than completely redesigning it.
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My guess is the focus will be on performance and the underbody rather than completely redesigning it.
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Made me nervous when I read this 😆

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MBrandenburg said:
Made me nervous when I read this 😆
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I had to re-read that a couple of times. It's oddly written. What I'm getting from it is that it will be recognizable as a Macan, even though it's going to have a different platform to handle the battery and motor(s).
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eVDub
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The electric Macan should be an impressive SUV whenever it does come out. They've already done some incredible stuff with the Taycan and for the rest of VW Group.
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That and an Audi version because that's almost always the case. If I was in the market for an all-electric sporty CUV, it would be from them. Porsche's within that range are a bit too tamed for me with performance and styling. Still amazing vehicles.
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