[ChristophW]

I am following up on a hunch and want to get insight into how people start their drive normally.

1. Please choose the most appropriate answer that describes your routine. If I left out a significant variation please let us know in a comment.
2. Most importantly, how do you judge the severity and frequency of glitches in your car? That requires a comment, so thanks for those.

As many of us know, the ID4 (and ID3 too, presumably), like for us to keep things relaxed. My hunch is that frequency and severity of glitches are somewhat correlated to how well we let the car wake up and be fully ready. Curious whether that hunch pans out.

 

[Spin]

In the past I would step on the brake, switch to drive and go. Lately I've been waiting for the screen to boot up.

 

[ChristophW]

In the past I would step on the brake, switch to drive and go. Lately I've been waiting for the screen to boot up.

And you see fewer glitches from what I anecdotally gather?

 

[ErickF]

Option 4. This has been my customary practice since delivery day. FWIW, I'm backing away 80% of the time.

Severity:

• High: would be something where I would feel there is a safety concern and I would immediately exit traffic and park the car. Blue screen of death or worse.
• Low: something that can't be repeated or fixed by Ctrl-Alt-Del effort

Frequency:

• Something that occurs more than once and I could recognize it as happening under the same, repeatable circumstances, not due to external conditions (e.g. poor road maintenance).

At 4.5 months (8xxx VIN), I've only had something as severe as requiring a restart of the infotainment occur twice. I've never had a situation where I needed to pull over.

 

[Spin]

And you see fewer glitches from what I anecdotally gather?

Well, yes but my wife is the primary driver. I explained the advantages of waiting to her and I honestly don't know if she took my advice. What I do know is that she is always in a hurry!

 

[adamjcook]

My wife and I generally hop in and pretty much take off without much fanfare. I selected the second option.

The only real "glitches" that I can really recall are:

1. If my wife and I both jump in the vehicle, sometimes, CarPlay seems to get "confused" in choosing which phone to attempt to connect to and then once it does connect, a black screen is presented. I have since shut off my Bluetooth and that issue seems to occur far less frequently.

2. I do not really know how to best describe this one, but I will try. My wife has an iPhone 11 and I have an ancient iPhone 7 Plus. There are certain spots in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, unique to each phone, that cause the Google Maps and Waze navigation to "lock up" or become very delayed and "jumpy". For example, there is a certain off ramp that I take to get to the grocery store. Every time I approach that exact same off ramp, the glitches start - like clockwork. My wife's iPhone does the same consistently in another spot on her way to work. I cannot figure out why that it is. I am not even sure it is a vehicle problem as the phones, once disconnected from CarPlay, act strangely for some time.

We live pretty close to Downtown Dallas so it is not like we are in a zone of inadequate cell coverage.

Sincerely,

Adam J. Cook

 

[Vegassist]

I picked option 3. At first, I would get in, put it in drive then wait for everything to happen. Then I got a black screen once that required me to pull over, walk away, start over. So, now I wait till the system comes up. Takes about ten seconds? Only had Apple Play issues since.

 

[static14]

i get in, buckle up, hit the brake pedal, plug my phone in and go.

 

[Huey52]

What is this “break” pedal? Perhaps that’s why the software is often broken. 😆

 

[Spin]

What is this “break” pedal? Perhaps that’s why the software is often broken. 😆

I don't use that pedal. I step on the brake pedal!!

 

[BlueDH]

I pretty much always let everything boot up. Select a destination and follow it using internal VW navigation. The 2 times I ignored internal routing warnings they were correct.
The one major problem I've experienced, once only, was when I was in a hurry and tried to jump in, step on the brake and go. I tried to switch into B mode and nothing happened. I tried R nothing. Cycled the steering column on/off button, tried getting in and out. Finally got in and pumped the brake pedal several times and was able to switch into B and go.
Has never happened again and I don't plan on duplicating it. I never imagined that the failure was possibly caused by not letting the infotainment boot fully up.
This is a great hypothesis! I'm hoping that the multiple startup failures reported can possibly prove the hypothesis.

 

[davidf277]

Get in
Press brake pedal
buckle up
Connect phone and load up android auto
switch off lane keep assist
switch to drive and off we go.

 

[Twylasdad]

I am following up on a hunch and want to get insight into how people start their drive normally.

1. Please choose the most appropriate answer that describes your routine. If I left out a significant variation please let us know in a comment.
2. Most importantly, how do you judge the severity and frequency of glitches in your car? That requires a comment, so thanks for those.

As many of us know, the ID4 (and ID3 too, presumably), like for us to keep things relaxed. My hunch is that frequency and severity of glitches are somewhat correlated to how well we let the car wake up and be fully ready. Curious whether that hunch pans out.

My car makes me wait. When I get in, as I am swinging my feet in, a message in white pops up on my infotainment screen. Approximately: this menu is non-functional. Please wait…
This takes roughly fifteen seconds. I haven’t put my foot on the brake pedal yet. Then the regular screens light up, with another Please Wait… on the infotainment screen which lasts about three seconds. When it turns off, the screens seem ready to go so I press down on the brake, select forward or reverse, and go. The total enforced delay is roughly twenty seconds. To me this is no inconvenience at all. I have to stow my water bottle and cell phone, check on my dog, etc.

I don’t know what would happen if I stepped on the brake immediately or pressed the main “On” button while the delay sign was showing — probably nothing until the car was ready. I can’t remember if I can open windows during the delay.

My car is a Pro made in May. Is this a recent change or do all the ID4s do the same thing?
I have driven only a few hundred miles and have had no glitches yet.

I live in Flagstaff, AZ at 7,000 feet elevation. A very hot day here is in the low nineties, but not until late morning or noon. Temperature in the garage in the morning is usually in the seventies or low eighties.

 

[Huey52]

I wait until the Infotainment screen icons fully load, with the last most always being the Ambient Lighting. Nary a glitch since waiting. I too feel this hypothesis has merit, especially as I have observed same with other computer-networking systems.

 

[mochalatte]

I don’t know what would happen if I stepped on the brake immediately or pressed the main “On” button while the delay sign was showing — probably nothing until the car was ready. I can’t remember if I can open windows during the delay.

It will let you drive even if the infotainment is not yet fully ready, at least it let me drive when I tried. In the last couple of weeks, I've started the practice of waiting till everything is fully ready, but that is not enforced by the car.

FWIW, at one of my errors w/ orange symbol indicators happened when I first got in the car before I had a chance to put the car in gear, so waiting wasn't an issue with that one. But as far as your hunch goes....

My hunch is that frequency and severity of glitches are somewhat correlated to how well we let the car wake up and be fully ready.

.... I haven't seen anything to contradict that hunch. Since I've taken to the practice of giving the car time to boot all the systems up, I haven't yet seen an error. It just couldn't have eliminated the one I saw before leaving the VW dealer.

 

[ChristophW]

Thanks all, great discussion! The poll results are not very illuminating, likely a result of my not thinking it through enough.
But I believe we have something like a consensus that glitches are fewer if we let the car boot completely. It goes with what I often say: This car encourages you to relax and take life a little easier.

What is this “break” pedal? Perhaps that’s why the software is often broken. 😆

Man, you had me worried about my spelling for a moment.

 

[LieutenantLefse]

Option 2, just buckle up and go. No glitches that I've noticed.

Off topic, I have a dear older family member who always starts his car, puts it in gear, gets moving, and only then buckles up as he's going down the road. Seems crazy to me but I don't think he's going to change that habit at this point.

 

[ChristophW]

At some point, one-handed operation will become difficult. That's the time change happens.

 

[mochalatte]

Off topic, I have a dear older family member who always starts his car, puts it in gear, gets moving, and only then buckles up as he's going down the road.

That's totally me! It's called economy of motion, baby! I dare you to crash into me before I get out of the driveway/parking lot.

 

[EV-Driver]

Having come from a Bolt EV where everything seemed to work better if you routinely waited until the car booted up, I follow the same in my ID.4. Sometimes the system comes alive almost immediately but other times the screen says it's not ready. So I always get in, fasten my seatbelt and then wait until the infotainment system stabilizes. Then I step on the brake and proceed with driving. The time it takes is so inconsequential, it's just routine.