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ID.4 97ZZ recall experience- spoiler: it’s not good

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Just sent this to the dealer and VW leadership:

I am writing to you, the executives at VW North America, and the service and sales managers of Lafayette (Indiana) Volkswagen to express my extreme disappointment. This is not the first terrible experience I have had with the service in Lafayette (the other situation was re: a Tiguan, but that’s a different story.)

The Lafayette Volkswagen (Five Star Auto Group) service experience has been awful and the staff are unwilling to take responsibility for poor communication and unprofessional/rude staff regarding my ID.4 recall repairs. The service manager Mike Godbey refused to believe me that I was laughed out by another service staff when I expressed frustration that they weren’t prepared to give me a loaner today.

I had an appointment for today (April 12) but they didn’t communicate in advance that they did not have a loaner that is required by the 50 page NHTSA agreement. I only found out they didn’t have the loaner because I called the night before to double check that everything was ready. The service manager said “well not everyone needs a a loaner. I own 3 cars so I will never need a loaner vehicle.” Wow, how rude and presumptuous can you be?! Secondly, I don’t care about your situation, I care about mine. And obviously, Mr Godbey, you don’t care about mine. This is a $46,000 car for which I’ve been waiting nearly 2 years for the FIRST software update. It is my family’s only mode of transportation. Not everyone is privileged enough to have multiple vehicles. Mr. Godbey, don’t assume anything about someone’s situation!

I have now lost my place in line and have wasted 2 months because of backlogs. My appointment was scheduled March 31 for April 19. It is now pushed back to May 29 without any apologies or ownership of the fault on their part. Instead, Mr. Godbey, the service manager, has refused to believe my story and and still failed to call me back to resolve the issue. In fact, he asked me at the end of our call last night that even though I said I would be hard pressed to ever do business with them again, would I bring the car back if he could find a loaner - AFTER also checking the phone records to see if I was telling the truth about being laughed at. Wow, unbelievable.

I have a waiting list appointment at Tom Wood Volkswagen in Indianapolis as a backup appointment that is nearly 70 miles away with 15 ID.4 owners in line in front of me. What a disaster. I have lost 2 weeks of appointment waiting time because of a complete lack of communication and follow through in Lafayette. There is most certainly a 100% chance I will never conduct any more business with my Lafayette Volkswagen again - service or Sales - including Audi. Not that at an Audi customer is any more special, but can you imagine buying a $100k+ vehicle and receiving this kind of treatment? Never again for me!

It’s sad that a good company like VW Group is at the mercy of the likes of Lafayette Volkswagen. There’s a reason nobody likes shopping for a car and Tesla’s direct sales and service model is leaving everyone else in the dust.


I’m most sad that I was apparently one of the first ID.4 owners in the area and this is the level of service people can experience with EV ownership. You all have a LONG way to go.

Sincerely,

James Britton

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What’s the downside of just not doing this recall service at all?
What’s the downside of just not doing this recall service at all?
There are actually two other arguably more important recalls involving checking battery cells for malfunction and a control module for the motor that can turn off at high speeds.
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VW gave me a Lyft ride from there and are giving me one to there when the software update is done .
VW gave me a Lyft ride from there and are giving me one to there when the software update is done .
Indy VW (Tom Wood) is telling it takes a week. They are 15 deep now
Indy VW (Tom Wood) is telling it takes a week. They are 15 deep now
They originally told me that they could do all three recalls in one long day. Unfortunately the software update takes 11 hours to accomplish just like I told them. I should know sometime tomorrow.
Every vehicle on their lot, new or used, is a potential loaner. All it takes is a one-page form, which they have. Done it several times when the dealer's "official" loaner pool was depleted.

Best of luck getting this resolved. Sounds like a terrible dealer.
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I had a similar loaner experience at Nalley VW in Atlanta today. They had no loaners and claimed they had no knowledge of loaners being part of the recall. They pushed me to VW customer service who had the nerve to tell me to find where it said they do loaners, ie prove it to them. Kind members of this forum pointed to the 50 page document which I shared with VW— who then told me it’s the dealer’s decision.

The dealer had no available loaners and wouldn’t for over a week. They implied that various parts needed for potential related repairs were first come first served (not the words they used) and in the next breath told me I could take the car home and wait until they had a loaner. Ummm, no, I’m not waiting and only to wind up waiting again because of parts.

My appointment was today, Wednesday, but they’re backed up with only one trained mechanic for the work, so they don’t expect to start until Monday. The mechanic was training the service manager to help.

Important note in all of this — VW’s loaner option is only 2 days and Nalley isn’t going to even start for 4 days, then the clock starts ticking on the actual work… and that’s if I’m not also sidelined with a bad cell(s) and they can get them!

I can’t blame the dealer, this all lies squarely in VW’s lap. It’s a shit show and then telling me to prove to them that they’re offering loaners — was an unforced error. I’ve never heard of a worse example of customer service. The Nalley folks were fine, not rude at all, even if they couldn’t give me what I want.
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I had the same problem in January with Heritage VW of Catonsville (outside of Baltimore). First they said that they were not obligated to provide a loaner; I decided I had my laptop and toughed it out. After a couple of hours waiting in the waiting room, they informed me that they didn't have all of the parts needed for the recall. I put off the visit for a few weeks until they 'found' a loaner -- and this time, they acknowledged that the service would take 2 days. Now, of course, I have an update to that recall, and a new one in the queue.

I don't think you can take the heat off of the dealer: they're in the business of providing customer service (which they have sorely forgotten). But the problem really does rest with VW: they wait 2+ years to provide a software update, and it's not a simple update. As @jamesbritton points out, we took a chance with VW in 2021, and the fact that they haven't reciprocated makes it unlikely I'll be a customer again.
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I had the same problem in January with Heritage VW of Catonsville (outside of Baltimore).
I’m from Owings Mills. Heritage, and every Mile One dealer for all of their brands, is about as bad as it gets. I bought one VW Hunt Valley and they really stood behind the car. They even got VWOA to pay for a brake issue on my Mark V Jetta that they insisted I should not have had to. Wish I could bring my ID to them!
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What’s the downside of just not doing this recall service at all?
97ZZ the main recall that updates the car to 3.1 also corrects two faults that may result in the car suddenly losing propulsion.

Maybe even more importantly (???) 97ZZ is necessary to get OTAs.
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Many of the posts in this thread are examples of terrible customer service. VW should require their dealers to provide their employees with classes on how to treat customers. They will not increase their market share if they don't.
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Very similar here, loaner wasn't given until they determined they couldn't get it done. Really upsetting and this experience has turned me sour to VW. The next EV I get will not have a VW badge, most likely Rivian because I like what the brand has been doing and the asthetics of the vehicles.
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Many of the posts in this thread are examples of terrible customer service. VW should require their dealers to provide their employees with classes on how to treat customers. They will not increase their market share if they don't.
in the past 10 yrs or so, we've sold a 2 yr old subaru and a 3 yr old mazda and completed given up on those two brands... not because of the quality of the cars, but the lack of competence and quality of the service departments at the dealers. it's sad state of affairs and likely to repeat itself with other car brands. :(
I must admit that my treatment by the dealership employees was pretty decent. They provided Lyft if not a loaner and notified me by phone promptly when they saw that the update would run on into a second day. Now if they could work on the sales force a bit I would give them a good rating.
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Many of the posts in this thread are examples of terrible customer service. VW should require their dealers to provide their employees with classes on how to treat customers. They will not increase their market share if they don't.
I had two bad experiences with the dealership that I got my ID.4 from. Almost sold my ID.4 out of spite. Was seriously looking at other EVs. Then the recall came and I decided to try a new dealership. Night and day difference. Got a loaner ID.4 when they realized it would take more than 1 day. No begging required. No 1 star review required. No lying service managers involved. Things progressed as they should have.

Now I’m waiting on the ID.7. 😂
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Yeah, I’ve had nothing but good experiences with my dealer (Douglas VW in Summit, NJ). They always provide a loaner (if you’re willing to wait for one to become available) and were no-nonsense through the purchase, finance and service.

@Mesohow Funny thing is I bought my Golf from
Heritage VW in Owings Mills, MD (no manual transmission SEL cars with my desired color scheme in the entire Northeast!) They did try to haggle more than I thought necessary on my trade in but I put my foot down and got the deal done. Never went back for service. (I gave Douglas a few months to find one but they couldn’t, so when internet search turned up my car, I jumped on it.)
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Many of the posts in this thread are examples of terrible customer service. VW should require their dealers to provide their employees with classes on how to treat customers. They will not increase their market share if they don't.
GIVE ‘EM THE PICKLE!!
I like the part when you talk about buying a $46,000 car, but immediately talk about your lack of privilege since you only own a single car.
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I like the part when you talk about buying a $46,000 car, but immediately talk about your lack of privilege since you only own a single car.
To be fair.. it's only like a $37K car after the state and federal rebates. And have you seen the USED car market? An 10 year old econobox of any brand with 70K miles can set you back $10-15K easy. It's not really a privilege to own a $46K car with inflation driving the average new car price hitting $47K. And to be honest, when you spend $46K on something you have every right to EXPECT some privilege of hassle free customer service.
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