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1922 Views 5 Replies 6 Participants Last post by emtonsti, Jan 20, 2021

brivodivo

Discussion Starter · Jan 19, 2021

Hey all! In preparation for my upcoming FE order, I've been following along with a couple of Youtubers in Europe that have been posting videos on their experiences with their ID.4. See below!

ID.Furkan

Has posted some great videos on winter range lately, which is of particular note because, like the US variant, his ID.4 does not have a heat pump

Hello ID4

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OUTAGAS

· #2 · Jan 19, 2021

I've been checking out the ID.Furkan videos over the last couple weeks or since whenever it was he took delivery. Does it seem like the range he's experiencing is less than what we were told, or is this generally to be expected at the higher speeds and lower temperatures that he was testing in?

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terasain

· #3 · Jan 19, 2021

OUTAGAS said:
I've been checking out the ID.Furkan videos over the last couple weeks or since whenever it was he took delivery. Does it seem like the range he's experiencing is less than what we were told, or is this generally to be expected at the higher speeds and lower temperatures that he was testing in?

The winter range is always lower and the effecience suffers at higher speeds. But the loss is a function of how efficient the car and its heating system is (cabin and battery)

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eldecarlo

· #4 · Jan 19, 2021

terasain said:
The winter range is always lower and the effecience suffers at higher speeds. But the loss is a function of how efficient the car and its heating system is (cabin and battery)

You can expect a 20-30%range loss with higher speeds and under 40 degrees. The colder it gets the worse it gets....

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Huey52

· #5 · Jan 20, 2021

When all we have to rely on is the main Li-ion and ancillaries lead-acid batteries there will of course be range reductions with additional occupant heating (and cooling) needs. And of course increased velocity as well. There's no free lunch (well, other than a bit of regenerative braking, but that of course induces drag of its own, and 3 years of free DC charging).

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emtonsti

· #6 · Jan 20, 2021 (Edited)

The comparison to the Chargeway App looks good. Chargeway does not account for his 21" tires. Aerodynamics is an additional loss at any temperature. 55, 60, 75, and 80 mph at about 34 F in U.S. units:

77 kWh	Furkan drive	Chargeway
34F	Range - miles	Range - miles
55	230	225
60	208	207
75	167	161
80	150	148

This is just the reality of the ID.4 BEV, not so different than most BEVs, give or take some % for a heat pump (and aerodynamics as to speed vs. range). It is important that prospective ID.4 buyers understand this reality as expected, so as not to be surprised later.

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