[JohnnyForElectric]

...just bringing back this discussion as a poll. As you vote, please also post why

Some high-level details

	ID.4	EV6
Price	Lower w/ 3yr unlimited DC charging	Higher (first edition is $58.5k)
Platform	400V MEB	800V E-GMP (faster DC charging)
Range	260 miles	265 miles
AWD Performance	295 HP	320 HP
Tech	HUD w/AR <not available in the US> Heat pump <not available in the US> Premium 14-speaker audio <not available in the US> Ventilated front seats <not available> Surround-view monitor / area view 360 <not available in the US> Matrix Headlights <not available in the US> DCC <not available in the US>	HUD w/AR Heat pump Premium 14-speaker audio Ventilated front seats Surround-view monitor / area view 360 Matrix Headlights <not available> DCC <not available in the US>
More details		All-New 2022 Kia EV6 Crossover | Meet Your Future Electric Car | Kia

 

[Froggy]

I voted ID4 because it is available now and nationwide. Next year it will be manufactured in Chattanooga. Charging speed is competitive. What does charging at twice the speed do to the battery? The radio is a valid point for most but my ears probably couldn’t sort out the difference. Acceleration is plenty fast if you aren’t suffering from testosterone poisoning.

 

[rth121]

Price will play a big factor in any choices when compared to the ID.4... ID.4 starting at $41,190 (Pro w/o AWD) is the selling point, at least for me.

 

[Spin]

I don't think the EV6 is worth 50% more than the ID.4

 

[mochalatte]

Everything I've been seeing about the real world range of the Ionic5 is disappointing. And the body styling just doesn't work for me. I think it will look like a dated car in a few years.

 

[VW TECHNICIAN]

Ioniq 5 suffer from not very efficient motor.....efficiency table is all over the board at different rotor speeds. .....i didn't have chance to test motor inverter efficiency but from testing on the motor they have work to do ( probably future motor revisions). Creating very efficient motor at 800V architecture requires more experience and knowledge and also more expensive propulsion.
What leads me to suspect motor inverter efficiency at highway speeds.
I'm sure they will get there ....but it is not going to be now.

 

[DWalk]

Voted ID4. It's the best value by far. The ev6 is by far the best looking ev on the market (opinion) and has ventilated front seats. The other features of ev6 aren't of much consequence to me. Can't bring myself to spend an extra 10k for looks and cool tushy... now if they announce a lesser spec ev6 that is similarly specd and priced version to my awd pro s on order I will reconsider.

 

[VW TECHNICIAN]

Voted ID4. It's the best value by far. The ev6 is by far the best looking ev on the market (opinion) and has ventilated front seats. The other features of ev6 aren't of much consequence to me. Can't bring myself to spend an extra 10k for looks and cool tushy... now if they announce a lesser spec ev6 that is similarly specd and priced version to my awd pro s on order I will reconsider.

Ventilated seats are not hard to accomplish on ID4 .....

 

[DWalk]

Ventilated seats are not hard to accomplish on ID4 .....

Ooooh, enlighten me! 🙂 I'm guessing I should google "how to add ventilation to seats" or source parts from European model?

 

[dougwmtn]

Me: voted ID.4. In my budget and had to replace Bolt. Very nice car and the price was right.

 

[PsMac.4]

...just bringing back this discussion as a poll. As you vote, please also post why

Some high-level details

	ID.4	EV6
Price	Lower w/ 3yr unlimited DC charging	Higher (first edition is $58.5k)
Platform	400V MEB	800V E-GMP (faster DC charging)
Range	260 miles	265 miles
AWD Performance	295 HP	320 HP
Tech	HUD w/AR <not available in the US> Heat pump <not available in the US> Premium 14-speaker audio <not available in the US> Ventilated front seats <not available> Surround-view monitor / area view 360 <not available in the US> Matrix Headlights <not available in the US> DCC <not available in the US>	HUD w/AR Heat pump Premium 14-speaker audio Ventilated front seats Surround-view monitor / area view 360 Matrix Headlights <not available> DCC <not available in the US>
More details		All-New 2022 Kia EV6 Crossover | Meet Your Future Electric Car | Kia

"And Others"...

I would like to add (for consideration) the vehicle we settled on. We took delivery on Aug 31.

https://www.volvocars.com/us/v/cars/xc40-electric

No one is talking about this car. That is a shame. I will give details on real world performance in weeks to come.
We were able to lease this car under MSRP (total amount under MSRP = 10K apx including 7500.) incentive.

Lots of issues with the ID.4 forced us to look further.
Very happy with the Volvo (was NEVER a fan of the brand).

 

[agzand]

I like ioniq5 styling for a compact hatch. For a family SUV it looks like a caricature. But I have to admit technically it is a better car than iD4. The Kia styling and low headroom just doesn't do it for me. Between iD4 and ioniq 5 it comes down to price, but I like the styling of iD4 better. I also like the more futuristic interior of iD4 compared to Q4. It is more appropriate for an EV.

 

[DWalk]

"And Others"...

I would like to add (for consideration) the vehicle we settled on. We took delivery on Aug 31.

https://www.volvocars.com/us/v/cars/xc40-electric

No one is talking about this car. That is a shame. I will give details on real world performance in weeks to come.
We were able to lease this car under MSRP (total amount under MSRP = 10K apx including 7500.) incentive.

Lots of issues with the ID.4 forced us to look further.
Very happy with the Volvo (was NEVER a fan of the brand).

The xc40 is really cool too. I just couldn't bring myself to spend 10 - 15k more to get more power and have a better looking vehicle than the id4. The id4 isn't ugly, but it ain't sexy like the xc40. Lol. Someday I hope to have the $ to buy based on looks.

 

[Nai3t]

Wha? I mean, to each their own, and Volvo has given it a nice very nice interior, but it looks like an ICE SUV with an obscenely long hood and a transmission hump dividing the passenger floor.

 

[Mutriu]

Voted ID.4 because of the price, immediate availability, styling preferences. Come on guys, 10- 15K on top of our price is A LOT more.

 

[tothemoon]

I voted ID4 primarily because it is available now with transparency into what you get at a given price point. The EV6 and Ioniq 5 are both contenders for me but since I can't have it fairly soon and don't know how much each trim level will cost, its a little harder for me to justify choosing them. The EV6 GT specifically seems like it would have everything I could want with acceleration, charging speed, technology etc but the GT trim is probably going to be way more expensive than the ID4.

 

[tothemoon]

also, front of the EV6 looks good to me, rear...not so much.

 

[gvvdc]

I think price/offering the VW is a better deal than the Kia.

Also if you have the extra $15k wouldn't a top-tier Ford Mach-e be a better option than the Kia?

 

[tothemoon]

I think price/offering the VW is a better deal than the Kia.

Also if you have the extra $15k wouldn't a top-tier Ford Mach-e be a better option than the Kia?

does the top-tier mach-3 have a heat pump and AR heads up display? Between the Kia and the Mach-E I felt like the Kia provided better value but that might just reflect the fact that I haven't cross compared those two with each other. Kia also offers faster charging if that matters to you and the ability to draw electricity from the car is kind of a neat feature though I wouldn't personally use it very much in my opinion.

 

[kens98]

Voted ID4.

Owned a few Kia's over the years and even drove a 2020 Sorento for a few days during a trip. No thanks.