[Volt-Wagon]

ID 4 Pro S Gradient Package-Blue
Ordered/Reserved 10/11/21
Placed Order 10/21/21

Can't Wait!

Anyone have any luck getting the dealer to give any kind of concession?

 

[bpwj76]

ID 4 Pro S Gradient Package-Blue
Ordered/Reserved 10/11/21
Placed Order 10/21/21

Can't Wait!

Anyone have any luck getting the dealer to give any kind of concession?

First of all... great user name! I'm jealous that you were able to lock after only 10 days. Some I've seen on the tracking spreadsheet locked in 4 to 5 days from their reservation date. I reserved mine on 10/9/21 and I'm still waiting on the email from VW to lock it in.

 

[Nai3t]

Some have reported negotiating purchases under MSRP, but by and large most have been happy to get out without added markups.

Given the way this order process works, the best hope is to try to negotiate a discount up front, before selecting the delivery dealer. Once the order is in the pipe, and the delivery dealer is selected, there's no incentive for the dealer to discount the price.

Anything is possible, however. Can't hurt to try to work a deal.

 

[babadook]

I have read of people on the vwid4owners reddit getting a $1500 discount on MSRP using VW's financing. Of course you pay interest, but if you can pay off the loan early or refinance into something lower it's potential savings.

 

[Volt-Wagon]

Some have reported negotiating purchases under MSRP, but by and large most have been happy to get out without added markups.

Given the way this order process works, the best hope is to try to negotiate a discount up front, before selecting the delivery dealer. Once the order is in the pipe, and the delivery dealer is selected, there's no incentive for the dealer to discount the price.

Anything is possible, however. Can't hurt to try to work a deal.

Sure there is an incentive. You could cancel (I really wouldn't cancel) the order if they refuse to give the discount. I was thinking the opposite waiting till I am ready to do the lease and trying to get like $500 off or something. It is not that unreasonable and do I think they would lose a deal over $500? No. At the end of the day, that $500 with the First Responder discount and an extra $500 that would take me under $479 per month after taxes on a 3/30 lease. The dealer I am buying from is in an economically depressed area.

 

[Volt-Wagon]

I have read of people on the vwid4owners reddit getting a $1500 discount on MSRP using VW's financing. Of course you pay interest, but if you can pay off the loan early or refinance into something lower it's potential savings.

Does this apply to leasing?

 

[Volt-Wagon]

First of all... great user name! I'm jealous that you were able to lock after only 10 days. Some I've seen on the tracking spreadsheet locked in 4 to 5 days from their reservation date. I reserved mine on 10/9/21 and I'm still waiting on the email from VW to lock it in.

Thank you. I am in Pennsylvania if that helps. Are you getting an AWD?

 

[Jetta-Wagen]

Oh, so exciting! I ordered on 10/9/21, and am so anxiously anticipating the next step! I'm in NJ. I didn't add the Gradient package, and fear that may delay my progress.

 

[Nai3t]

... do I think they would lose a deal over $500? No. ...

Maybe it depends on regionally, but the reality I'm seeing is this: the US ID.4s are being built for customer orders only. Maybe that's no longer the case, but many dealers are happy to be in possession of your "customer refused delivery" ID.4 because whereas they are directed by VW to sell it to the original ordering customer at sticker, they are free to mark it up once it's for sale on their lot. And many of us have seen ID.4s marked up $2,000 to $5,000. Is anybody actually paying that? I don't know (nobody is going to post on this forum that they overpaid). But point is, the dealer has more freedom to mark up the selling price once the original orderer is out of the picture.

That's why, as a dealer, I'd be happy to honor a request for a small discount up front to get business, in the hopes that a bunch of ID.4s land on my lot, and some become cancellations. Then I could make the discounts back plus some, increase my sales volume, and actually have product to sell with this constrained supply situation. But once that vehicle is in transit, I don't see the incentive to adjust price.

Again, try. Others have and have saved some cash.

 

[Mike Bouck]

There won't be significant (or any) discounts for the ID.4. The reality is that the ID.4 is a hot product and supply constrained until at least late next year (when Chattanooga comes online). That said, my purchase experience with my AWD Pro S was hassle-free - it seems that the message has largely been received by the dealers that there are to be no games with pre-orders.

 

[Nai3t]

It's not supply constrained in the sense that the customer has all the control, and there's no dealer allocation process to shuffle the customer's order. In other words, first come, first served.

So the customer is flying the plane, and choosing which airport to land it at.

When I ordered my Ford, dealer allocation made the difference between a 6 week and a 6 month wait, so dealer A could offer me a time avantage at a higher price while dealer B could offer a lower price if I was willing to wait.

 

[WATTaboutMe]

Our dealer cited the $7,500 tax credit incentive as being one of the reasons why dealer incentives aren't being offered, but I have no idea if that statement is or was accurate because not everyone will be eligible for the tax credit. That incentive also expires at the end of the year, so I'm curious to see what kind of incentives are offered in 2022. I can't imagine incentives being better than that tax credit and three years of free charging....

 

[Mike Bouck]

Our dealer cited the $7,500 tax credit incentive as being one of the reasons why dealer incentives aren't being offered, but I have no idea if that statement is or was accurate. That incentive expires at the end of the year, so I'm curious to see what kind of incentives are offered in 2022. I can't imagine incentives being better than that tax credit and three years of free charging....

The federal EV tax credit doesn't go away at the end of the year - they might have been referring to state incentives (which tend to be rebates). The fed credit starts phasing out when a given manufacturer (in this case VW) sells 200,000 qualifying cars.

 

[ChristophW]

Apart from everything above, you may be able to get some free add-ons. My dealer threw in a first aid kit, others here have gotten more.

 

[WATTaboutMe]

The federal EV tax credit doesn't go away at the end of the year - they might have been referring to state incentives (which tend to be rebates). The fed credit starts phasing out over the next year when a given manufacturer (in this case VW) sells 200,000 qualifying cars.

That makes much more sense to me! Thanks!

 

[Stinsy]

I got 10% off MSRP. I usually like to get a much bigger discount than that (I've got over 30% in the past) but what with the supply/demand dynamic at the moment I did as well as I could.

 

[Volt-Wagon]

I got 10% off MSRP. I usually like to get a much bigger discount than that (I've got over 30% in the past) but what with the supply/demand dynamic at the moment I did as well as I could.

10%!!! Wow. You are in the UK-different country probably different way of doing business.

 

[ddx]

I had been bugging my sales guy from time to time to sell the demo that they had (which is the exact model I ordered). The demo car had 1500 miles on it when finally they had a cancelled Pro on the lot and willing to part with the demo, I arrived at the dealership early, and they gave me a grand total massive discount of $200 and there were 3 people stopping by during negotiation, waiting in line to buy it as soon as I walk. Probably shouldn't have taken it and wait for my order, but now it has 6000 miles and its been a good boy.

 

[Volt-Wagon]

I had been bugging my sales guy from time to time to sell the demo that they had (which is the exact model I ordered). The demo car had 1500 miles on it when finally they had a cancelled Pro on the lot and willing to part with the demo, I arrived at the dealership early, and they gave me a grand total massive discount of $200 and there were 3 people stopping by during negotiation, waiting in line to buy it as soon as I walk. Probably shouldn't have taken it and wait for my order, but now it has 6000 miles and its been a good boy.

I would of kept the order in case you had to walk. Guess I am grateful for the $500 I got. These are interesting times we are living in.

 

[Stinsy]

10%!!! Wow. You are in the UK-different country probably different way of doing business.

Yeah I read a lot about how dealerships in the US screw over their customers. See below a post I made in the UK sub the other day. Don’t forget we don’t pay a penny over these prices, no mudflaps, “under seal”, or other BS.

Just received a promotional email from a broker I’ve used before:

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Even a bit off the just-launched Q4 eTron:
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