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Its a smart thing, IMO. To rapidly expand their charging infrastructure, EA needs free cash flow. The quickest way to generate cash is to sell something, stake in the company in this case.
This is correct. EV charging infrastructure is classic "you gotta spend money to make money." If they don't build out the EV charging stations, someone else will. They'll also want to have the cash on hand to be able to quickly jump into any private-public partnerships that may arise from any infrastructure deal that could come out of this administration.
 

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Not sure how I feel about this one. On one hand growth for the network is great thing; but why ask now, have they run out of cash.

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It's simple, they have spent the $2 billion required by their legal settlement. Due to the micromanaging nature of the settlement they were not able to spend the money to make a nationwide highway charging network. They need more money to do so and VW's cash is tied up in increasing production. It is the way almost every major company expands.
 

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Let's also keep in mind that VW has a distinct advantage at the moment with their factory capacity to build tens of thousands of affordable EV. I suspect they've identified the biggest hurdle to wide spread adoption is the lack of charging stops, or at least the perception of it.

(I mean, let's be honest, the real roadblock may be a way for everyone who wants to to level 2 charge at home, including apartment dwellers and street parkers, but that is besides the fact that it's hard to charge at many off the beaten path destinations.)

So VW needs to build out this EA charging network now, fast, in order to maximize EV sales and make use of this excess production capacity, especially right now when they've got a strong hand.
 

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Not sure how I feel about this one. On one hand growth for the network is great thing; but why ask now, have they run out of cash.

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It will be interesting to see if Ford will take a stake here.

Volkswagen and Ford are already very close industry partners and I think GM recently struck some kind of partnership/investment deal with the EVgo charging network.

Fast charging stations are extremely expensive.

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Actually Ford has a deal with EA for 250kWhrs of free charging for the MachE.
Fast Chargers are expensive which is why you find them on the back corners of malls, Walmarts etc and not alway at the very best locations. Real estate is expensive so if malls or business will donate some of their less prime parking places in exchange for flow over business this is understandable. The local Tesla Super charger site is in a parking lot between Outback and Twin Peaks(a Hooters knockoff)
 

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What the feds need to do is open up 1/5th of every parking spot in federally owned rest stops for EV charging. They could install the wiring and contract with EA/EvGo/whoever to maintain the boxes and handle payment.

We stopped by an EA at a toll road travel center and it was vastly superior to driving off the highway into a Walmart parking lot.
 

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What the feds need to do is open up 1/5th of every parking spot in federally owned rest stops for EV charging. They could install the wiring and contract with EA/EvGo/whoever to maintain the boxes and handle payment.

We stopped by an EA at a toll road travel center and it was vastly superior to driving off the highway into a Walmart parking lot.
As it happens I supervised several State Rest Area renovations, expansions, and in one case full construction. Most of these rest areas and Welcome Centers are located far from any amenities other than chip and soda machines and of course restrooms. There are often laws that say that they can't allow private businesses to set up on public property. Power and communications lines are often run many miles which is also why many of them have their own wells and sewage treatment plants. So upgrading the internet lines and powerlines is not a trivial matter. That said in 2014 there was talk about setting up power so semi trucks wouldn't have to idle for AC while the drivers were sleeping. As I recall the project went nowhere probably because of the location and $$$.
 

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Since the federal government doesn't generally get into local /state property matters, this legislation would have to be on the level of ADA to enact. Is think tax incentives combined with market demand will be the better choice, and some states and cities will jump in to lay the groundwork for others to follow.

Smart investors will see the EV wave coming and time it right. Some will jump the gun and lose if they go on too heavy, and some will miss the boat doing nothing. Definitely chicken and egg, though. Many prospective buyers I know won't jump in until they see charging stations everywhere.
 

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As it happens I supervised several State Rest Area renovations, expansions, and in one case full construction. Most of these rest areas and Welcome Centers are located far from any amenities other than chip and soda machines and of course restrooms. There are often laws that say that they can't allow private businesses to set up on public property. Power and communications lines are often run many miles which is also why many of them have their own wells and sewage treatment plants. So upgrading the internet lines and powerlines is not a trivial matter. That said in 2014 there was talk about setting up power so semi trucks wouldn't have to idle for AC while the drivers were sleeping. As I recall the project went nowhere probably because of the location and $$$.
Yeah, I know there is a federal law that keeps companies from setting up businesses, but that doesn't mean that the feds couldn't foot the bill for the electrical work and then have the companies do the last mile stuff. I know that federal workers aren't the ones refilling the vending machines, haha.
 

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Yeah, I know there is a federal law that keeps companies from setting up businesses, but that doesn't mean that the feds couldn't foot the bill for the electrical work and then have the companies do the last mile stuff. I know that federal workers aren't the ones refilling the vending machines, haha.
Done by annual bid contract and it's a Thunderdome match just like yard maintenance. If they were to fund it, the job might be worth coming out of retirement if they would bond me and give me limited immunity from lawsuit. You cannot BELIEVE the stupid ways that tourist hurt themselves if within a mile of a construction zone. Actually it doesn't need to be a construction zone. Then there is the vandalism, unbelievable amounts of it, and the illegal activity in the less patrolled areas. Obviously I have many examples that I won't go into.
 

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High speed charging is going to be a tough business model. How many gas stations would exist if 60+ percent of their customers had a gasoline pipeline accessible in their garage? The money's already in the convenience stores at fueling stations now. I think the highway oases like Wawa/Sheetz/Royal Farms, etc. will be the last ones standing.

If Tesla opens up their network to CCS charging, it will be a game changer. A lot of people think it won't happen. I think it will, while maintaining absolute preference to Tesla vehicles arriving at the chargers through automated reservations. There's a lot of capacity sitting unused at Superchargers.
 

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As the time for a typical DC charge fast charge session starts approaching the time of a gas station stop, I wonder if it won't just be gas stations paired with convenience stores that evolve from gas -> gas/EV charging mix -> mostly EV charging. The closest EA station to me is at a Sheetz gas station, and that strikes me as about the right pairing as DC charging times start approaching 10-15 minutes in the coming years.

Of course we will also evolve from 100% of gas fueling happing at gas stations toward the reality of <10% of EV charging needing to happen at DC chargers (with >90% happening wherever EVs are parked overnight), so we won't have to have as many EV charging stations around as we currently have gas stations.
 

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There's definitely barriers and red tape regarding rest stops. I read this story a while back that explains it pretty well.
 

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It's simple, they have spent the $2 billion required by their legal settlement. Due to the micromanaging nature of the settlement they were not able to spend the money to make a nationwide highway charging network.
I've seen this kind of "VW's hands are tied" thing come up about Electrify America again and again, but it's just not true. There's nothing in the consent decree that prevents them from building out a nationwide highway network. In fact, these ZEV investment decisions are entirely up to Volkswagen/EA. Appendix C of the decree lays out four allowed categories of investment (one of which applies only in California). The plan must involve investment in two of them (infrastructure and outreach/education), but beyond that it's all up to VW. Section 2.1 is quite explicit about it:

Settling Defendants are solely responsible for every aspect of selecting the National ZEV Investments, including, but not limited to, the category or combination of the three categories of investments listed above, as well as the timing and locations of any National ZEV Investment.
EPA/CARB don't have any sort of veto power over VW's plan. Their oversight just consists of verifying that VW has submitted their plans on time and spent enough "creditable costs" on schedule.

But more importantly, they have been building a nationwide highway charging network! Through the first two national investment cycles they've spent more on "nationwide highway high-speed charging" than any other category ($255 -$275 million, vs. $185 - $205 million for metro/community charging and far less on education & outreach).
 
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I think investments into EA are a very good thing. If we want charge stations to be more ubiquitous and more reliable, then that directly translates to money needed. This forum has repeatedly documented "charge deserts" and other issues with EA. We know fairly well where investments could and should go.
 

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For one thing it was required that $800 million of the $2 billion be spent in California leaving $1.2 billion. Then take away $205 million for community charging so far . Then $275 spent for highway charging of which 40% was spent in California.
That $275 million was all outside of California (as was the $205 million for community charging). In California, an additional $75 million was spent on highway fast charging in Cycle 1 and $65-85 million in Cycle 2. The Cycle 3 Plan is already out for California and it includes another $15-25 million for highway & regional routes.

My point, though, is that the decision to make those community charging investments was entirely EA's. They were not required to do so by the consent decree. The EA planning documents are quite transparent about their rationale for making the investments they did. If you disagree, submit your comments!
 

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