[RobertS]

Photos of the upcoming EV9 SUV from Kia have popped up online. I can see this being very popular for Kia.

Leaked: All new Kia EV9

www.kiaevforums.com

 

[pezzy668]

Quite handsome!

Outside the Rivian R1S, Tesla Model X and Mercedes EQS I don't think there are any other true 3 row EV's (Model Y and MB EQB with their little toddler sized 3rd rows don't count IMO). Kia beat everyone else to the market for a "moderately" priced 3 row EV CUV, they will sell them faster than they can make them.

 

[RCA]

The early reviews note that there is no rear window wiper mounted at the bottom of the window, so unless it's hidden under the spoiler, they haven't learned their lesson yet.

 

[camaroz1985]

Quite handsome!

Outside the Rivian R1S, Tesla Model X and Mercedes EQS I don't think there are any other true 3 row EV's (Model Y and MB EQB with their little toddler sized 3rd rows don't count IMO). Kia beat everyone else to the market for a "moderately" priced 3 row EV CUV, they will sell them faster than they can make them.

Not moderately priced, but don't forget the Volvo EX90. We will be putting a reservation on the EV9 ASAP, and then decide between the Volvo and the Kia when the time comes. My wife likes the styling of the Volvo more, I like the estimated price of the Kia more, but I am waiting to see range on both. The one with 300 miles with AWD wins for me. I have a very early Volvo reservation, so chance are could get either about the same time.

If VW had the ID.6 here, or even better an Atlas sized ID.8, that would probably be our choice.

 

[pezzy668]

Not moderately priced, but don't forget the Volvo EX90. We will be putting a reservation on the EV9 ASAP, and then decide between the Volvo and the Kia when the time comes. My wife likes the styling of the Volvo more, I like the estimated price of the Kia more, but I am waiting to see range on both. The one with 300 miles with AWD wins for me. I have a very early Volvo reservation, so chance are could get either about the same time.

If VW had the ID.6 here, or even better an Atlas sized ID.8, that would probably be our choice.

I have always had a soft spot for Volvos and of course I side with your wife of Volvo over Kia, of course that’s price no object. 😂

VW is really missing the boat here and I really hope they are working on a ID.Atlasesque 3 row for the North America market. I know the Buzz technically applies but I think it’s more a retro/halo car that will be a 5-6 year flash in the pan like the New Beetle once the nostalgia wears off. Minivan market has largely been eaten up by the midsize CUV.

 

[Nai3t]

the Buzz technically applies but I think it’s more a retro/halo car that will be a 5-6 year flash in the pan like the New Beetle once the nostalgia wears off. Minivan market has largely been eaten up by the midsize CUV.

Possibly, but consider form factor. Electrification means the hood – the whole front end of the car – can be completely rethough, ex. snub noses on the ID.3 and i3. What if, instead of the Buzz being thought of as a retro design, it's received for what it really is: a forward-looking reimagination of how to best maximize usable interior space for a given wheelbase or body length? A 3-row SUV without the hood?

The long wheelbase Buzz will be 195 inches, vs Kia EV9 at 194, and Volvo EX90 at 198.

 

[chrislyon3]

I'm onboard for our family's next car! I'm not so sure the Rivian R1S, Volvo EX90, & ID.Buzz are going to be drastically different in price, so this Kia is a nice surprise (for me).

However, I think the Buzz could prove to be the most functional family car, and I think minivans (or at least sliding doors) are due for a resurgence. I had my eye on the Kia Carnival, which, like the Buzz, is classified as an MPV, or multi-purpose vehicle.

 

[pezzy668]

I'm onboard for our family's next car! I'm not so sure the Rivian R1S, Volvo EX90, & ID.Buzz are going to be drastically different in price, so this Kia is a nice surprise (for me).

However, I think the Buzz could prove to be the most functional family car, and I think minivans (or at least sliding doors) are due for a resurgence. I had my eye on the Kia Carnival, which, like the Buzz, is classified as an MPV, or multi-purpose vehicle.

IDK - the cheapest R1S is $78k looking at their site. If the top trim AWD Buzz hits $78k then VW has lost their damn minds again and will run into another Phaeton situation of people laughing at and not buying an $80k VW. I'm thinking top trim AWD Buzz will probably be in the $60-65k range if that, $5k premium over ID.4 feels about right.

 

[MikeQBF]

...another Phaeton situation...

Have you been reading my thoughts? This has been exactly my thinking all along as ID.Buzz pricing has been repeatedly hinted to be north of $50K.

As to the Kia EV9, I can hear my sister's words echo in my head from our most recent phone chat, "Not another SUV!" She owns a Tesla S from the first production and is sort of complaining that "It runs like a 10-year-old computer, which is what it is, basically." She inferred that it's an OK daily driver, but needs too much attention as little things break from age alone; it only has 44K on it. She sort of pooh-poohed the ID.4, "I don't want a crossover, really."

She's considering the EV6, but I wouldn't touch a Kia with a ten-foot pole. Recent models (ICE, of course) have a really bad rep in our region for being theft targets because they don't have ignition disablers. A recent crime wave is directly tied to teens stealing Kias and Hyundais to commit gun shop thefts and carjackings, and Kia/Hyundai has refused to retrofit or offer real solutions to owners. I don't reward bad corporate behavior.

 

[NeverhadanEVbefore]

She's considering the EV6, but I wouldn't touch a Kia with a ten-foot pole. Recent models (ICE, of course) have a really bad rep in our region for being theft targets because they don't have ignition disablers.

Gotta again love EU consumer protection. Disablers have been mandatory for over a decade in new cars, and Kia does comply here.