RobertS· Registered User
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Photos of the upcoming EV9 SUV from Kia have popped up online. I can see this being very popular for Kia.
Not moderately priced, but don't forget the Volvo EX90. We will be putting a reservation on the EV9 ASAP, and then decide between the Volvo and the Kia when the time comes. My wife likes the styling of the Volvo more, I like the estimated price of the Kia more, but I am waiting to see range on both. The one with 300 miles with AWD wins for me. I have a very early Volvo reservation, so chance are could get either about the same time.Quite handsome!
Outside the Rivian R1S, Tesla Model X and Mercedes EQS I don't think there are any other true 3 row EV's (Model Y and MB EQB with their little toddler sized 3rd rows don't count IMO). Kia beat everyone else to the market for a "moderately" priced 3 row EV CUV, they will sell them faster than they can make them.
I have always had a soft spot for Volvos and of course I side with your wife of Volvo over Kia, of course that’s price no object. 😂Not moderately priced, but don't forget the Volvo EX90. We will be putting a reservation on the EV9 ASAP, and then decide between the Volvo and the Kia when the time comes. My wife likes the styling of the Volvo more, I like the estimated price of the Kia more, but I am waiting to see range on both. The one with 300 miles with AWD wins for me. I have a very early Volvo reservation, so chance are could get either about the same time.
If VW had the ID.6 here, or even better an Atlas sized ID.8, that would probably be our choice.
Possibly, but consider form factor. Electrification means the hood – the whole front end of the car – can be completely rethough, ex. snub noses on the ID.3 and i3. What if, instead of the Buzz being thought of as a retro design, it's received for what it really is: a forward-looking reimagination of how to best maximize usable interior space for a given wheelbase or body length? A 3-row SUV without the hood?the Buzz technically applies but I think it’s more a retro/halo car that will be a 5-6 year flash in the pan like the New Beetle once the nostalgia wears off. Minivan market has largely been eaten up by the midsize CUV.
IDK - the cheapest R1S is $78k looking at their site. If the top trim AWD Buzz hits $78k then VW has lost their damn minds again and will run into another Phaeton situation of people laughing at and not buying an $80k VW. I'm thinking top trim AWD Buzz will probably be in the $60-65k range if that, $5k premium over ID.4 feels about right.I'm onboard for our family's next car! I'm not so sure the Rivian R1S, Volvo EX90, & ID.Buzz are going to be drastically different in price, so this Kia is a nice surprise (for me).
However, I think the Buzz could prove to be the most functional family car, and I think minivans (or at least sliding doors) are due for a resurgence. I had my eye on the Kia Carnival, which, like the Buzz, is classified as an MPV, or multi-purpose vehicle.
Have you been reading my thoughts? This has been exactly my thinking all along as ID.Buzz pricing has been repeatedly hinted to be north of $50K....another Phaeton situation...
Gotta again love EU consumer protection. Disablers have been mandatory for over a decade in new cars, and Kia does comply here.She's considering the EV6, but I wouldn't touch a Kia with a ten-foot pole. Recent models (ICE, of course) have a really bad rep in our region for being theft targets because they don't have ignition disablers.