[Pucks104]

Bought first Bolt in 2017, GM bought it back in April 2021 due battery fire recall, then bought 2021 Bolt thinking all would be good. This week a eerily similar battery fire in a 2020 Bolt. Sold my Bolt to Carmax next day for mire than I paid since I got an incredible deal in April.
Anyway, can anyone tell me if there is a strong likelihood of battery fires becoming an issues in the ID4 as they began getting a couple years on them. How similar to the 2021 Bolt battery is the ID4 battery? I have test driven the ID4 and liked it ok. Pros and cons over my Bolt Premier. Any techies that might explain why the ID4 is less likely to experience the battery fires than my Bolt?

 

[Huey52]

We've only had our ID.4's in the USA for just over 5 months now, so ... But no reports that I've seen of any battery fires.

We also lack that level of insight on the materials/construction of the Bolt vs. ID.4 batteries so can't compare. Perhaps at some point there will be more details on the Bolt situation although they're likely at present being very careful with their data given potential litigation.

It's quite understandable that a former Bolt owner would ask these questions as part of their due diligence and especially so as not to again "get burned." [sorry, just had to]
But again we lack that longevity and level of insight.

VW has of course conducted accelerated wear tests and deemed their battery more than acceptable. But then of course so did Chevy.

Bought first Bolt in 2017, GM bought it back in April 2021 due battery fire recall, then bought 2021 Bolt thinking all would be good. This week a eerily similar battery fire in a 2020 Bolt. Sold my Bolt to Carmax next day for mire than I paid since I got an incredible deal in April.
Anyway, can anyone tell me if there is a strong likelihood of battery fires becoming an issues in the ID4 as they began getting a couple years on them. How similar to the 2021 Bolt battery is the ID4 battery? I have test driven the ID4 and liked it ok. Pros and cons over my Bolt Premier. Any techies that might explain why the ID4 is less likely to experience the battery fires than my Bolt?

 

[ericy]

We've only had our ID.4's in the USA for just over 5 months now, so ... But no reports that I've seen of any battery fires.

For what it is worth, the ID3 was out in Europe just about a year ago. But no battery fires that I have heard of there either.

 

[Tinman]

How similar to the 2021 Bolt battery is the ID4 battery?

I can't answer your question about differences wrt Bolt. This is the most detailed video look at ID.4's pack that I have seen:

 

[Pucks104]

For what it is worth, the ID3 was out in Europe just about a year ago. But no battery fires that I have heard of there either.

Thank you Huey52. Yes, getting “burned” twice has made me gun shy! The alternative is back to ICE and the thought is unappealing. I like a tall hatch/small SUV form so options are limited. Hard to decide.

 

[Frank3]

For what it's worth (battery issues aside), I went from a 2017 Bolt to an ID.4 and love the new car. Sure there are a couple of things that the Bolt had that I miss (stronger regeneration and a 360 degree camera system), but the ID.4 is a much more refined, comfortable, and well made car. I don't regret my purchase at all.

 

[p7wang]

For what it's worth (battery issues aside), I went from a 2017 Bolt to an ID.4 and love the new car. Sure there are a couple of things that the Bolt had that I miss (stronger regeneration and a 360 degree camera system), but the ID.4 is a much more refined, comfortable, and well made car. I don't regret my purchase at all.

After getting spoiled, 360 camera is a must for me.

 

[p7wang]

For what it is worth, the ID3 was out in Europe just about a year ago. But no battery fires that I have heard of there either.

Never say never...

Volkswagen ID.3 Bursts Into Flames In The Netherlands

This Volkswagen ID.3 burst into flames after a woman from the Dutch city of Groningen disconnected it from the curbside charger.

insideevs.com

 

[VW TECHNICIAN]

Bought first Bolt in 2017, GM bought it back in April 2021 due battery fire recall, then bought 2021 Bolt thinking all would be good. This week a eerily similar battery fire in a 2020 Bolt. Sold my Bolt to Carmax next day for mire than I paid since I got an incredible deal in April.
Anyway, can anyone tell me if there is a strong likelihood of battery fires becoming an issues in the ID4 as they began getting a couple years on them. How similar to the 2021 Bolt battery is the ID4 battery? I have test driven the ID4 and liked it ok. Pros and cons over my Bolt Premier. Any techies that might explain why the ID4 is less likely to experience the battery fires than my Bolt?

What are you interested in Bolt battery pack vs VW battery pack....
There is many differences between....
To satisfy your questions you should knew your Bolt engineering design and i will answer VW engineering design.

 

[JimmyVW]

Never say never...

Volkswagen ID.3 Bursts Into Flames In The Netherlands

This Volkswagen ID.3 burst into flames after a woman from the Dutch city of Groningen disconnected it from the curbside charger.

insideevs.com

Big question here is still if the battery caught fire or not. The fire was put out very easily, and the fire was mostly under the hood and not under the car itself.
Both give the impression that the issue might not be battery related. The dutch safetyboard is looking into it together with VW.

 

[Tinman]

I thought the Leaf was going to make it relatively unscathed. Interesting to watch the firefighter go in for what I assume is the Leaf's HV disconnect at the end.

 

[Mark Magiera]

For what it is worth, the ID3 was out in Europe just about a year ago. But no battery fires that I have heard of there either.

You were saying...

VW ID.3 flares off

This was on my news feed yesterday. Seems the owner was charging Level 2 & the spontaneity or speed of full involvement reads of a cell overload. Curious to know if this ID3 had seen the most recent OTA activation or was running a different version. Also not disclosed is the size of the pack. Much to investigate beyond "yeah, it's completely burned."

 

[Mark Magiera]

It was white. Now it is a new type of moonstone grey...

 

[Nai3t]

It's an understanding concern, but you can rationalize your way out of it. Compare it to a Samsung Galaxy 7 Note owner swearing off all smart phones.

The Bolt situation is an abberation, an entry in the field of Teslas, BMWs, Leafs, eGolfs, Hyundais, Kias, etc. that, by in large, don't spontaneously combust.

True, anything is possible, but I wouldn't bet against the ID.4 in this regard.

 

[Pucks104]

Thank you all for your responses. I am returning to annICE for awhile and will watch what happens over the next couple years as the battery technology evolves. I do expect to return to the EV world in time.

 

[Mark Magiera]

Thank you all for your responses. I am returning to annICE for awhile and will watch what happens over the next couple years as the battery technology evolves. I do expect to return to the EV world in time.

Realize: all cars burn. Dino-juice cars burn far more often. Statistically.

Good luck. You do you.

 

[EVone]

After getting spoiled, 360 camera is a must for me.

What are you doing over here... get home 😁

 

[Spin]

You were saying...

VW ID.3 flares off

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This was on my news feed yesterday. Seems the owner was charging Level 2 & the spontaneity or speed of full involvement reads of a cell overload. Curious to know if this ID3 had seen the most recent OTA activation or was running a different version. Also not disclosed is the size of the pack. Much to investigate beyond "yeah, it's completely burned."

Early reports are that this ID.3 was smoking in bed

 

[Wilsonium]

I've seen EVs on fire from the battery. This didn't seem that hot and it seemed to go out fairly quickly. It is not clear how long this had been burning or took to put out by the video although we do see what looked like a tire bursting. Would be interesting to learn about the cause and other details.

 

[p7wang]

What are you doing over here... get home 😁

Checking out the VW forums while waiting on the ID.BUZZ.