[7S POWER]

 

[voxel]

VW trying out Tesla on FSD...

I don't have faith in FSD or any self-driving with the current Deep Learning systems. It's all reactive system without understanding of exceptions (or how the world works).

 

[7S POWER]

VW trying out Tesla on FSD...

I don't have faith in FSD or any self-driving with the current Deep Learning systems. It's all reactive system without understanding of exceptions (or how the world works).

Neither does Tesla.

"The company says in owner's manuals and on its website that both Autopilot and "Full Self-Driving" are not fully autonomous and that drivers must pay attention and be ready to intervene at any time"

 

[voxel]

Neither does Tesla.

"The company says in owner's manuals and on its website that both Autopilot and "Full Self-Driving" are not fully autonomous and that drivers must pay attention and be ready to intervene at any time"

Did you watch the live feed? CEO thinks VW can have autonomous ID.Buzzes... They want to go full autonomous and not part-autonomous. I'm thinking that's a terrible idea. I'd want smaller well-tested features like red/green light chimes... pedestrian identification... etc. Not "fully autonomous driving"

 

[7S POWER]

Y, I did. I'm okay with FSD as long as I can turn it off or offer it as an option pkg. I don't like electronic nannies and, I prefer to do the driving myself.

 

[voxel]

Y, I did. I'm okay with FSD as long as I can turn it off or offer it as an option pkg. I don't like electronic nannies and, I prefer to do the driving myself.

Same. I turn everything autopilot on my Model Y but I do find the red/green light and environment scan (and display) very useful. Those are "aids" to me.

VW seems to want "autonomous-driving" which could fail spectacularly if they depend on it. On the ID.4 you can't permanently turn off Lane Keep Assist without an OBD-II dongle. Annoying.

 

[VW TECHNICIAN]

Same. I turn everything autopilot on my Model Y but I do find the red/green light and environment scan (and display) very useful. Those are "aids" to me.

VW seems to want "autonomous-driving" which could fail spectacularly if they depend on it. On the ID.4 you can't permanently turn off Lane Keep Assist without an OBD-II dongle. Annoying.

It only takes 1-2 minutes for someone who is good with coding......and it will stay off permanently unless you change it on the screen menu.

 

[Islander]

Neither does Tesla.

"The company says in owner's manuals and on its website that both Autopilot and "Full Self-Driving" are not fully autonomous and that drivers must pay attention and be ready to intervene at any time"

Well ... how is that a good thing? It's easier to drive the car yourself than to "be ready to intervene at any time." FSD sounds about as stress-free as being a driver's ed teacher.