[goodbyebolt]

Here are my thoughts after 1 week driving the car. I'm hoping someone has a solution to some of these:

A) The suspensions on the ID4 is very rough. Even just going straight down our road my girlfriend is saying shes getting nauseous because its just not absorbing any imperfections on the road. My other EVs, Chevy Bolt EUV and the Tesla Model S do not do this. Will try to see if lowering the PSI on the tires will have any change. Whats the lowest I can set it to not set off the low tire pressure? Is there anything else I can do? To a point where I may possibly be willing to change the shocks/springs/coilovers just to make it softer. Could one perhaps possibly get fatter tires (since there so much wheel gap anyways)

B) The seats do not fully go back to the saved memory positions after entering and starting the car. Someone mentioned that you need to have the seatbelts on, which I did, but the seats go back about 80-90% of the way and i have to hold the #1 button to go back all the way. Anyone know why this is?

C) Android Auto LAGS for me on both wireless and wired mode. I've literally tried everything to fix this. Changed the cables, disabled wireless AA, played with different Android auto versions, used different phones (latest phones released, Zfold4 and Galaxy S22 Ultra). My girlfriend's iphone Apple carplay has ZERO lag. I took it back to my other vehicles that have android auto (Rav4 Prime and Chevy Bolt EUV) and there is no android auto lag.

D) How does Travel Assist keep track that your hand is on the steering wheel? Is it when it feels a slight movement in the wheel from my hands? There are no sensors on the steering wheel that can detect my hands right? The reason I ask is that it seems to nag alot more often than my other vehicles with some sort of lane keep assist (Toyota Rav4 Prime, Tels Model S)

E) The glass roof is reflects less sunlight than Tesla's glass roof. This is a minor annoyance since I suppose atleast the ID4 has a moonroof cover and the Tesla does not, but i'd like to just leave the glass on most of the time. has anyone tinted their glass roof? perhaps like a limo tint.

F) Minor quirk: why does the car tell me to turn off the headlights when I'm about to leave the car even though its set on Auto. Thats the whole point of AUTO isn't it?!

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[Spin]

Welcome to the group. I'll answer your first question. Lower your tire pressure to 37-38 psi. That should improve the ride. Other members may chime in but if not try using the search feature to answer your other questions. Good luck!

 

[Atlant]

C) Android Auto LAGS for me on both wireless and wired mode. I've literally tried everything to fix this. Changed the cables, disabled wireless AA, played with different Android auto versions, used different phones (latest phones released, Zfold4 and Galaxy S22 Ultra). My girlfriend's iphone Apple carplay has ZERO lag. I took it back to my other vehicles that have android auto (Rav4 Prime and Chevy Bolt EUV) and there is no android auto lag.

You didn't tell us which model year you're driving or what software revision it has but the 2.1 software (installed in at least all 2021 cars) is VERY laggy in ever way, especially at startup. The 3.1 software (installed in at least 2023 cars) is reported to be a lot less laggy but may still lag some. And there definitely are specific threads here about Android Auto.

 

[Atlant]

D) How does Travel Assist keep track that your hand is on the steering wheel? Is it when it feels a slight movement in the wheel from my hands? There are no sensors on the steering wheel that can detect my hands right? The reason I ask is that it seems to nag a lot more often than my other vehicles with some sort of lane keep assist (Toyota Rav4 Prime, Tels Model S)

It seems to use capacitive-touch sensing to feel your hand(s) on the steering wheel.

But please be sure to distinguish LKA (Lane-Keeping Assist) from TA (Travel Assist). In 2021 and 2022 cars, LKA defaults to on and it only intervenes when you are seriously violating the lane markings. Depending on your settings, it will steer you back into the lane, shake the steering wheel, or both. LKA is also known to make mistakes in “reading” the lane markers and often jerks you around for no good reason. Many people here (including me) dislike this feature. In 2023 cars with Software V3.2, you can apparently turn it off and it will stay off until the day you turn it back on again.

By comparison, TA (Travel Assist) is activated by you pressing a button in the left steering wheel group. TA then self-drives, doing a pretty good job of constantly centering you in the lane.

 

[Atlant]

F) Minor quirk: why does the car tell me to turn off the headlights when I'm about to leave the car even though its set on Auto. That's the whole point of AUTO isn't it?!

That's just one of the may minor bugs in the car's software. No one has reported whether that is fixed in Software V3.1 (installed in 2023 cars).

 

[d287]

A) The suspensions on the ID4 is very rough. Even just going straight down our road my girlfriend is saying shes getting nauseous because its just not absorbing any imperfections on the road. My other EVs, Chevy Bolt EUV and the Tesla Model S do not do this. Will try to see if lowering the PSI on the tires will have any change. Whats the lowest I can set it to not set off the low tire pressure? Is there anything else I can do? To a point where I may possibly be willing to change the shocks/springs/coilovers just to make it softer. Could one perhaps possibly get fatter tires (since there so much wheel gap anyways)

B) The seats do not fully go back to the saved memory positions after entering and starting the car. Someone mentioned that you need to have the seatbelts on, which I did, but the seats go back about 80-90% of the way and i have to hold the #1 button to go back all the way. Anyone know why this is?

C) Android Auto LAGS for me on both wireless and wired mode. I've literally tried everything to fix this. Changed the cables, disabled wireless AA, played with different Android auto versions, used different phones (latest phones released, Zfold4 and Galaxy S22 Ultra). My girlfriend's iphone Apple carplay has ZERO lag. I took it back to my other vehicles that have android auto (Rav4 Prime and Chevy Bolt EUV) and there is no android auto lag.

D) How does Travel Assist keep track that your hand is on the steering wheel? Is it when it feels a slight movement in the wheel from my hands? There are no sensors on the steering wheel that can detect my hands right? The reason I ask is that it seems to nag alot more often than my other vehicles with some sort of lane keep assist (Toyota Rav4 Prime, Tels Model S)

E) The glass roof is reflects less sunlight than Tesla's glass roof. This is a minor annoyance since I suppose atleast the ID4 has a moonroof cover and the Tesla does not, but i'd like to just leave the glass on most of the time. has anyone tinted their glass roof? perhaps like a limo tint.

F) Minor quirk: why does the car tell me to turn off the headlights when I'm about to leave the car even though its set on Auto. Thats the whole point of AUTO isn't it?!

thank you for coming to my ted talk

Here goes... and this is collected wisdom from these forums:
A) Your tires are likely overinflated. Dealers tend to overinflated which creates this. The car rides like a Cadillac when properly inflated. Google around here for arguments as to proper, but some of us follow the European sticker which gives a range based on loading rather than the US sticker which recommends max pressure. Even bringing it down to max pressure will help a lot, but you may want to go a bit lower (38 or so) if it's only the two of you in the car.

B) There are threads about this, but it may be easiest to just disable the comfort seat access.

C) Yes, it does... Appel CarPlay works perfectly. Maybe time for an switch

D) The wheel is capacitive and it detects the presence of your skin; just rest your hand on it. No need to turn it like on a Tesla. Can be fooled if you're wearing gloves. Also, if you leave your hand resting on the wheel when Travel Assist is stopped, it will wait longer before requiring you to tell it to go when the guy in front of you moves.

E) I think so.

F) Um, yeah. Ignore that... or get out faster Someone said it was fixed in v3.1 of the software, but if you have a 2022 you probably have 3.1 already so... maybe not.

 

[d287]

That's just one of the may minor bugs in the car's software. No one has reported whether that is fixed in Software V3.1 (installed in 2023 cars).

I'm pretty sure 2022 also have 3.1, port installed...

 

[Atlant]

I'm pretty sure 2022 also have 3.1, port installed...

That's why I didn't mention 2022 for either case (2.1 or 3.1) but in all honesty, I've read a lot of different claims about what version of software is installed in which 2022 cars. I hope you're correct.

 

[BrianFellows]

It’s important to note that travel assist is not, was not designed to be, and should not be used as a hands free driving experience. It is an ASSIST system. The beauty of it is it centers you in the lane and keeps a steady distance from other cars which frees up your brain to pay more attention to other drivers on the road. This allows you to better anticipate where they are going and what they are doing, which makes you safer.

 

[Atlant]

It’s important to note that travel assist is not, was not designed to be, and should not be used as a hands free driving experience. It is an ASSIST system. The beauty of it is it centers you in the lane and keeps a steady distance from other cars which up your brain to pay more attention to other drivers on the road. This allows you to better anticipate where they are going and what they are doing, which makes you safer.

Is there any research that says that drivers are safer when using low-level assist features like Travel Assist?

I find that my required cognitive load to maintain situational awareness and the ability to rapidly react to events is much HIGHER when using TA so I've pretty much never enjoyed using it. Even ACC is a problem in this way (as compared to me just plain driving).

 

[d287]

Is there any research that says that drivers are safer when using low-level assist features like Travel Assist?

I find that my required cognitive load to maintain situational awareness and the ability to rapidly react to events is much HIGHER when using TA so I've pretty much never enjoyed using it. Even ACC is a problem in this way (as compared to me just plain driving).

My study of one person (me) indicates the opposite... after repeated tests of a 3 hour drive with TA on I'm much less tired than I am when I'm driving myself or using just ACC without lane centering in previous cars, so I surmise it must be the fact that my brain doesn't need to be doing the constant background load of tweaking and adjusting course. I'm still paying attention to cars around me to make sure someone isn't doing something stupid, but I'm not focused on where the lane lines are because the car has that...

 

[MR. Ed of course]

Is there any research that says that drivers are safer when using low-level assist features like Travel Assist?

I find that my required cognitive load to maintain situational awareness and the ability to rapidly react to events is much HIGHER when using TA so I've pretty much never enjoyed using it. Even ACC is a problem in this way (as compared to me just plain driving).

YMMV. I find using ACC and Travel Assist to be worthwhile. I will agree that so called "hands free driving" should not be encouraged or used - yet. How many fatalities have there been (so far) as a result of Tesla's "Autonomous Driving Feature"? This feature may be perfected someday, but currently, I would not bet my life on it. 😕

 

[BrianFellows]

Is there any research that says that drivers are safer when using low-level assist features like Travel Assist?

I find that my required cognitive load to maintain situational awareness and the ability to rapidly react to events is much HIGHER when using TA so I've pretty much never enjoyed using it. Even ACC is a problem in this way (as compared to me just plain driving).

Your experience is the complete opposite of my experience. I find it much easier to pay attention to my environment when using TA features.

Everybody’s brain is different.

 

[fireboy92k]

The only unanswered question is I haven't seen anyone post here about tinting the roof glass. Anything is possible of course, but I don't know on which side of the glass they put the reflective coating. If it's on the outside, in theory putting a tint on the inside could trap heat in the glass. There have been a few reports as I recall of people having their glass break. But I don't recall anyone tinting it.

Personally living in Florida we don't find it to be an issue, but others here even in colder states have noted the additional solar load of leaving the blind open all the time.

 

[MR. Ed of course]

The only unanswered question is I haven't seen anyone post here about tinting the roof glass. Anything is possible of course, but I don't know on which side of the glass they put the reflective coating. If it's on the outside, in theory putting a tint on the inside could trap heat in the glass. There have been a few reports as I recall of people having their glass break. But I don't recall anyone tinting it.

Personally living in Florida we don't find it to be an issue, but others here even in colder states have noted the additional solar load of leaving the blind open all the time.

I too live in FL and don't have any issues with the "Moon roof". It already is tinted and doesn't cause too much radiant heat to enter the car. Moreover, warm/hot air rises, so whatever heat does enter via the moon roof, it pretty much stays just under the roof. The shade does an excellent job of reducing radiant heat and direct sun glare. YMMV.

 

[KyleBrightman]

Here are my thoughts after 1 week driving the car. I'm hoping someone has a solution to some of these:

A) The suspensions on the ID4 is very rough. Even just going straight down our road my girlfriend is saying shes getting nauseous because its just not absorbing any imperfections on the road. My other EVs, Chevy Bolt EUV and the Tesla Model S do not do this. Will try to see if lowering the PSI on the tires will have any change. Whats the lowest I can set it to not set off the low tire pressure? Is there anything else I can do? To a point where I may possibly be willing to change the shocks/springs/coilovers just to make it softer. Could one perhaps possibly get fatter tires (since there so much wheel gap anyways)

B) The seats do not fully go back to the saved memory positions after entering and starting the car. Someone mentioned that you need to have the seatbelts on, which I did, but the seats go back about 80-90% of the way and i have to hold the #1 button to go back all the way. Anyone know why this is?

C) Android Auto LAGS for me on both wireless and wired mode. I've literally tried everything to fix this. Changed the cables, disabled wireless AA, played with different Android auto versions, used different phones (latest phones released, Zfold4 and Galaxy S22 Ultra). My girlfriend's iphone Apple carplay has ZERO lag. I took it back to my other vehicles that have android auto (Rav4 Prime and Chevy Bolt EUV) and there is no android auto lag.

D) How does Travel Assist keep track that your hand is on the steering wheel? Is it when it feels a slight movement in the wheel from my hands? There are no sensors on the steering wheel that can detect my hands right? The reason I ask is that it seems to nag alot more often than my other vehicles with some sort of lane keep assist (Toyota Rav4 Prime, Tels Model S)

E) The glass roof is reflects less sunlight than Tesla's glass roof. This is a minor annoyance since I suppose atleast the ID4 has a moonroof cover and the Tesla does not, but i'd like to just leave the glass on most of the time. has anyone tinted their glass roof? perhaps like a limo tint.

F) Minor quirk: why does the car tell me to turn off the headlights when I'm about to leave the car even though its set on Auto. Thats the whole point of AUTO isn't it?!

thank you for coming to my ted talk

A. Try comfort drive mode. I find the ID.4 drives with much more composure than our Chevy Bolt (2021) and my BIL's Model 3 Dual Motor LR (2020)

D. The steering wheel is capacitive. It needs the conductivity of your hand on the wheel, not a torque input like other Level 2 ADAS systems.

 

[VW TECHNICIAN]

This is first person that finds Tesla Model Y with more smooth suspension than ID4.
It is just not correct.....i have rental 2023 Model Y long range ( that supposedly have updated suspension) but it is still more rough than ID4. Check your tire pressure.

 

[JimmyVW]

This is first person that finds Tesla Model Y with more smooth suspension than ID4.
It is just not correct.....i have rental 2023 Model Y long range ( that supposedly have updated suspension) but it is still more rough than ID4. Check your tire pressure.

Could it be his shocks are still blocked with the transport blocks? or is that only for the German build cars?

 

[VW TECHNICIAN]

Could it be his shocks are still blocked with the transport blocks? or is that only for the German build cars?

All ID4 in transport mode are using suspension blocks that have to be removed after inspection....

 

[KyleBrightman]

All ID4 in transport mode are using suspension blocks that have to be removed after inspection....

Is there an easy way to recognize if they are still in there without a trip to the dealer?