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One of my most cherished mods to my 2013 Audi allroad was the installation of the so called "rest of world" tail lights with sequenced amber flashers.

However, besides procuring the light modules, I also had to adapt the programming through the VAG-COM system to make everything work.

I know it's irrational but I really love the Euro-style taillights on the ID.4, with the 3D "card" style elements, full across-the-tailgate lightbar, and the amber sweeping flashers.

My assumption is if I can get my hands on these lights, they won't be plug 'n play, that some coding would be required. Any knowledge whether Ross Tech has their fork in the ID.4 yet, before I jump on their forum?
 

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VW has new security measures that mean many recoding operations require a secured connection between a VW server and the car. Unfortunately unless VW has made a mistake in designing the crypto elements of the system we might be out of luck.

Crypto is hard though so maybe something will be found :)
 

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Last time I contacted Ross-Tech about access to ID. coding, 2 weeks ago, they said they were still locked out from making any changes.
 

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VW has new security measures that mean many recoding operations require a secured connection between a VW server and the car. Unfortunately unless VW has made a mistake in designing the crypto elements of the system we might be out of luck.

Crypto is hard though so maybe something will be found :)
I also seem to recall reading that, even if you were able to mod the software, VW has it so that updates will often remove any mods you've added to the car.
 

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As we have a Ross-Tech expert 'on staff' here I'm sure he'll soon be weighing in. Andy at Ross-Tech.com Although he will likely echo the VW security measures involved.

btw: I had a 2013 Audi allroad too. As I've often cited it was the best long haul vehicle I've ever owned. In 20/20 hindsight I should have better resisted my retirement urge to get a TTS and have kept it. But at least I'm now back to a 'station wagon.' :ROFLMAO:

One of my most cherished mods to my 2013 Audi allroad was the installation of the so called "rest of world" tail lights with sequenced amber flashers.

However, besides procuring the light modules, I also had to adapt the programming through the VAG-COM system to make everything work.

I know it's irrational but I really love the Euro-style taillights on the ID.4, with the 3D "card" style elements, full across-the-tailgate lightbar, and the amber sweeping flashers.

My assumption is if I can get my hands on these lights, they won't be plug 'n play, that some coding would be required. Any knowledge whether Ross Tech has their fork in the ID.4 yet, before I jump on their forum?
 

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You guys pretty much summed up the situation with tweaks. Many modules are locked down with SFD, currently requiring the factory ODIS scan tool with a connection to the factory headquarters to make changes. We are looking into it and my ID.4 spends most of its time in the interrogation corner of our parking lot. Keep in mind a HEX-NET or HEX-V2 can read fault codes, view/log/graph data in every control module in these cars which is far from “useless”.
 

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So we need to find a good dealer tech who’s willing to help us fanatics make changes like adding the sweet European taillights, or unlocking the full functionality of the premium headlights?
 

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Looks like it comes in 3 pieces. here is the right corner piece for sale: VW ID.4 LAMPA PRAWA TYLNA ORYGINALNA IQ LIGHT Chodzież - Allegro.pl Looks to be about $395 for the one piece. If the controllers are part of the light assembly it MIGHT be plug and play, but it looks like all 3 pieces would probably run over $1000. To much for me to risk! but give it some time as Euro ones start getting wrecked and I am sure we can get the parts cheaper. I would not want to even ask what the new VW price would be. I did this similar mod to the Phaeton, and from the factory just the outside rear lights were around $1350 each. but I got a great set from allegro.pl shipped for $60 total for both

here is the center piece for the rear NAR lights: Oryginalna tylna lampa VW Volkswagen ID4 ID.4 Dzierżoniów - Allegro.pl

But this is a mod I really really want to do
 

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You guys pretty much summed up the situation with tweaks. Many modules are locked down with SFD, currently requiring the factory ODIS scan tool with a connection to the factory headquarters to make changes. We are looking into it and my ID.4 spends most of its time in the interrogation corner of our parking lot. Keep in mind a HEX-NET or HEX-V2 can read fault codes, view/log/graph data in every control module in these cars which is far from “useless”.
What would be nice to come with phone app to watch over various PIDs that are easy to get from obd2.... at least until VW decides to put this type of information behind the firewall.
 
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