We don't know what the 22s started at when at the port. It could have been 3.0 which would make the process much easier.
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They may have had a more-consistent set of modules rather than a scatter-shot collection of them.
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We know there are '22s in the wild with 2.1*. If that's correct, they definitely didn't start production of the '22s with something newer than 2.1.
*Am I correct on that?
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Or is it that like “3.1” whereby saying “2.1” doesn't really nail it down and there are multiple versions all called “2.1” for us rubes?
I don't believe that is true. At least not in the US.
I think that's why VW really wanted to do OTA, but found that some modules just couldn't take an update with the existing software. In Europe, the dealers only update you to 2.4 - the rest is OTA.
Even the 2021 models were updated in the port, but I don't think it is known what they had when they came off the factory floor.
The pictures I have seen showed rows of cars and rows of laptops. I presume a small number of specially trained techs would go from one car to the next to keep the updates moving along.
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Yes, and that's easier to organize at the port where VW employs the techs directly, equips them and sets them loose... I suspect the dealerships are the weak link here.
When 2022 models were being stockpiled in Houston and other VW US ports (start of production in late December through June), Euro models were shipping with 2.3.
We had a forum member join during that time who worked at a US port facility, and posted a screenshot of what was installed, but I can't recall if it was 2.1 or 2.3.
There were a small batch of 2022 cars – about 1,200 if memory serves – that received an incomplete update, maybe 3.0.1. There was a memo to dealers explaining this, and that a service visit would be required to update them.
Then, coincidentally, at the end of June the remaining 2022s began receiving 3.1 at port, at the same time 2.4 (delayed since March) went live in Europe. Those two events had to be related.
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Not sure when this stockpile happened, but Euro models got 3.0 around May, then 3.1 at some point and November saw 3.2.
OTA is still 3.0 only.
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Perhaps VW is struggling financially and looking for areas to cut spending.
Yeah what's puzzling is 2.4 was definitely a holdup and there was a lot of to-do about updating the battery or BMS module. It sure seems like whatever is contained in 2.4 didn't necessarily make it to all versions of 3.0, but is definitely in 3.1. My suspicion is VW has a bit of a shuffled deck with these module updates.
If you recall, Europe shop visits for 2.4 were cancelled at the last minute in March or April, and the whole thing about that early June batch of US '22s needing a later dealership update, well that all sounds related.
If you recall, Europe shop visits for 2.4 were cancelled at the last minute in March or April, and the whole thing about that early June batch of US '22s needing a later dealership update, well that all sounds related.
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We have a customer's 21 in the shop right now that has been held up for days because the update would not run past one of the modules and stopped uploading. Techs today said the SA is completely gone and they can't do anything now. Contacted the regional rep and he said there was a meeting today about the issue. 🤷♂️
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Now if only there was a way to know how a listed company is doing financially...
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TLDR from my earlier note where I said I’d ask my local dealer today when I took ours in for the 10k service
The service advisor for the electric platform cars here told me it's his understanding that they are going in production lots by VIN starting from the front. All the VINs in the first batch have been allocated and contacted. They have their first one here scheduled for upgrade next week. They are setting aside 2 days per VW and they also had to wait for the required loaner car to arrive, which it just did earlier this week.
They have an initial small allotment of the replacement batteries as well and those are reserved for this and the presumably next batch of cars covered by a similar service bulletin. Those he said would come with a new warranty for that component at time of installation. I’m not sure what the warranty is to be honest on the current lead acid.
He also noted that it was his understanding that there are differences in the components used for the NA market that have also part of the slowdown to make sure everything works as expected.
The service advisor for the electric platform cars here told me it's his understanding that they are going in production lots by VIN starting from the front. All the VINs in the first batch have been allocated and contacted. They have their first one here scheduled for upgrade next week. They are setting aside 2 days per VW and they also had to wait for the required loaner car to arrive, which it just did earlier this week.
They have an initial small allotment of the replacement batteries as well and those are reserved for this and the presumably next batch of cars covered by a similar service bulletin. Those he said would come with a new warranty for that component at time of installation. I’m not sure what the warranty is to be honest on the current lead acid.
He also noted that it was his understanding that there are differences in the components used for the NA market that have also part of the slowdown to make sure everything works as expected.
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Thanks. Posting from my phone at the dealership and it timed out. Go figure. LOL
On a side note, they have 7 2023’s on the lot for sale and the sales guys tell me no maker adjustments. The one I looked at that had some DIO on it were only $850. All are eligible for the moment for the full $7500.
On a side note, they have 7 2023’s on the lot for sale and the sales guys tell me no maker adjustments. The one I looked at that had some DIO on it were only $850. All are eligible for the moment for the full $7500.
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After Tesla push another discount after March because of battery minerals restrictions.... all Manufacturers of EV will have to respond with discounts...because not many people are in tax bracket to gain 7.5 k on tax returns..... this is expected move that will start happening soon.
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The issue of tax credit eligibility is a tricky one - you need to make enough to owe at least $7,500 in tax (plus any other credits you’re already eligible for, like having kids, etc), but you can’t make more than the limit where the tax credit goes away ($150k individual / $300k joint). So, for single folks, you have to make at least $67k and less than $150k.
I wish they had simply structured it as a “cash on the hood” credit scheme where the dealer does the paperwork at purchase and takes the $7,500 off the sales price. They could still impose an upper income limit, but it would help lower income folks buy EVs. That’s how the state rebate program in NJ works.
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Clean bill of health for our 2021 AWD at 11k miles and about 6 weeks short of 1 year of ownership. 7/32 on the front tires, 6/32 in the rear. No alignment issues. No faults. I have no complaints.
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If you have obdeleven...can you post modules scan....
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